From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: d-s-m default: Nil + explanation! Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:18:00 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87fx3o4k1j.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <8739zps45s.fsf@mean.albasani.net> <87mxxw6c7b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269523111 22470 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2010 13:18:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:18:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 25 14:18:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Numx7-0006KC-IC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:18:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53431 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Numx6-00084A-Ct for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:18:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Numx1-000843-D5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:18:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46116 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Numwz-00083t-FU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Numwy-0003HF-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:18:17 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:56492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Numwy-0003Gr-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:18:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Numwv-0006ER-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:18:13 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c27b9.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.39.185]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:18:13 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c27b9.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:18:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c27b9.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DYJqO3oVufoIaDkbnzzS8t3yAps= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122649 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:24 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Lennart Borgman writes: >> >>> I see no reason that they should have to read something before they >>> can do even the simplest editing. >> >> There is no point in reverting to polemics until we have even decided >> what we are talking about. > > I do not think what I said is just polemics. So you seriously believe that currently it is not possible for a prospective user to do even the simplest editing in Emacs. -- David Kastrup