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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: base
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:13:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwy2g7i2.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1OoE2b-0000c5-JI@fencepost.gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

[snip]

>> But the lack of a teachable mental model is a real problem,
>> regularly visible on the bazaar list.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what is a ``teachable mental model'', and
> where do you see such a model explained in, e.g., git's or hg's docs.
> If you can point me to such an explanation, then I could compare that
> to bzr's docs and see if there are any significant differences.

The teachable mental model was something you insistently asked for on
the first weeks of the transition to bzr. It is like the Principles of
Physics that, once mastered, are extremely useful while working with
everything else on the field. Git has simple foundations and those are
explained on several places on the net. See for example

http://www.newartisans.com/blog_files/git.from.bottom.up.php

There is no such thing for bzr. There was some failed attempt of writing
an equivalent document, which tells lots about the "simplicity" of bzr.

Git is a simple model wrapped on a complex UI. Bzr is a complex model
wrapped on a deceptively simple UI. Changing the UI is easy (and there
are lots for git.) Changing the underlying model is almost impossible.

[snip]




  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-25 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-22 12:06 base Alan Mackenzie
2010-08-22 12:20 ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-22 13:01   ` base Alan Mackenzie
2010-08-22 12:50 ` base Teemu Likonen
2010-08-22 13:20   ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-23 10:38     ` base Uday S Reddy
2010-08-23 11:03       ` base Leo
2010-08-23 12:56         ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24  4:32         ` base Richard Stallman
2010-08-24  6:01         ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24  7:22           ` base Leo
2010-08-24  8:29             ` base Andreas Schwab
2010-08-24  8:34             ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24  9:10               ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-24 10:03                 ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-24 13:39                   ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 14:05                   ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-24 15:00                     ` base Andreas Schwab
2010-08-24 16:14                     ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-24 12:32                 ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 12:51                   ` base Leo
2010-08-24 13:39                   ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-24 14:25                     ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-24 16:18                       ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-24 14:37                     ` base David Kastrup
2010-08-24 16:22                       ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-24 16:38                         ` base David Kastrup
2010-08-24 17:22                           ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-24 17:35                     ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 17:45                       ` base Frank Schmitt
2010-08-25  4:33                         ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-25  6:38                           ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25  8:48                             ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-25  9:02                               ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:17                                 ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-25 18:12                                   ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 20:34                                     ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-25 20:43                                       ` base Bernardo Barros
2010-08-25 20:55                                       ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-24 18:00                       ` base Leo
2010-08-24 19:04                       ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-24 23:44                         ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-24 23:48                           ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-25  0:19                             ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-25  3:13                               ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25  3:44                                 ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-25  5:46                                   ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25  8:15                                 ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-25  9:35                                   ` base Uday S Reddy
2010-08-25 10:43                                     ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-25 15:34                                     ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-25 11:21                                   ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:13                                     ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2010-08-25 15:11                                       ` base Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-08-25 19:08                                         ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 19:07                                       ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 21:06                                         ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-26  3:10                                           ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26  3:27                                             ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-26  3:29                                               ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-26  5:37                                               ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26  6:29                                                 ` base Leo
2010-08-26  8:23                                                 ` base Uday S Reddy
2010-08-26  9:16                                                   ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 12:25                                                     ` base Uday S Reddy
2010-08-26 12:35                                                       ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 13:27                                                     ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-26 13:49                                                       ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 14:42                                                         ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-26 15:11                                                           ` base David Robinow
2010-08-26 15:50                                                             ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-26 15:28                                                           ` base David Kastrup
2010-08-27  5:33                                                           ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-27 13:25                                                             ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-28 15:18                                                               ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-26 11:01                                                 ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-26 17:08                                                   ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 13:03                                                     ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-27 13:52                                                       ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 14:25                                                         ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-27 15:25                                                           ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-28 16:25                                                         ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-28 17:32                                                           ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-28 18:58                                                             ` base Leo
2010-08-28 19:58                                                               ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-28 22:51                                                                 ` base Leo
2010-08-28 19:16                                                             ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-28 20:00                                                               ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 12:21                                                                 ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-26 18:09                                                   ` base Uday S Reddy
2010-08-25 16:09                                     ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-25 18:51                                       ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 10:25                                         ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-26 11:26                                           ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 11:52                                             ` base Leo
2010-08-27  5:43                                             ` base Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-27  6:57                                               ` base Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27  7:06                                                 ` base David Kastrup
2010-08-27 13:16                                                 ` base Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-25  7:38                               ` base Leo
2010-08-25  7:41                                 ` base Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-25 13:23                                   ` base Teemu Likonen
2010-08-25  9:07                               ` base Uday S Reddy
2010-08-24 14:09                   ` base Miles Bader
2010-08-24 14:13                   ` base Miles Bader

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