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From: Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@eku.edu>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: random predicate function
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:05:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwu1jxy5.fsf@guruji.demimonde> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87y67tplgk.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com

"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> writes:

> Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@eku.edu> writes:
>
>> "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> You shoud not use sort to randomize, because it's suboptimal
>>> [ O(n*log(n)) at best instead of O(n) ].
>>>
>>> And foremost, you should not use a predicate that is not a total order
>>> because this usually gives invalid results.
>>
>> I don't know what a 'total order' means. Is the result of the predicate
>> invalid or the actual sorting?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_order
>
> Actually, it should even be a strict total order, that is, it must be a <
> operator, not a <= operator.
>
>
> If you have cycles such as:   a < b < a
> then some sort algorithms may not terminate.
> When sorting lists, some algorithms could truncate the result.

Ah, thanks. Makes perfect sense now that I think about it.

Tyler




  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-13 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.0.1292251427.11097.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-13 15:26 ` random predicate function Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-13 17:16   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-13 17:48     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-15 14:51       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 15:20         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-15 16:44           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 17:28             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-15 18:39               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-12-15 18:04             ` Drew Adams
2010-12-13 18:17   ` Tyler Smith
     [not found]   ` <mailman.2.1292264248.1009.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-12-13 18:38     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-12-13 19:05       ` Tyler Smith [this message]
2010-12-13 14:43 Tyler Smith
2010-12-13 15:37 ` Gary
2010-12-13 16:08   ` Tyler Smith
2010-12-13 16:16     ` Erik Iverson
2010-12-13 16:50       ` Tyler Smith

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