From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#7517: 24.0.50; repeated crash under Mac OS X Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:55:52 +0900 Message-ID: <87fwtdjn07.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87tyic1uzh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87vd2dyzfj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D1B22A1.6080202@swipnet.se> <4D1B27AF.7010701@swipnet.se> <4D1C6E7D.2040300@swipnet.se> <4D1D0172.8080404@swipnet.se> <4D1DB555.5080002@swipnet.se> <4D1DBD4A.6010303@swipnet.se> <83d3oiaysj.fsf@gnu.org> <4D1DD655.1040809@swipnet.se> <83aajmaxme.fsf@gnu.org> <4D1DE740.5060000@swipnet.se> <838vz6apu6.fsf@gnu.org> <4D1E2787.3030501@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293854450 26769 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2011 04:00:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 04:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: user.emacs@gmail.com, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 7517@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 01 05:00:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYse0-0001HM-Qx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 05:00:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35481 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PYse0-00038B-8d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:00:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42272 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PYsdv-00037y-9H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:00:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYsdt-00035J-VE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:00:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:46966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYsdo-00031H-E5; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:00:28 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7FC3FA023B; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:00:18 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BCA75120684; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:55:52 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4D1E2787.3030501@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134096 Archived-At: Jan Dj=E4rv writes: > But not in this case. The given string is not decoded right with undeci= ded.=20 > detect-coding-string doesn't list iso-8859-8. I think choosing between= =20 > iso-8859-x is difficult. Still, VM should know the coding used. It does for standards conforming mail. But VM can't do anything when people put literal 8-bit codes in the headers without MIME encoding, which still happens occasionally in legit mail (and is very frequent in abusive mail), or in the body without a Content-Type charset parameter. It has to leave that up to Emacs, or recode to UNKNOWN (aka application/octet-stream). VM used to quite ornery about such stuff, and simply refuse to deal with it. It's gotten lax in its old age, I guess.