From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source"
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:55:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwnbkp9i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874o3r8kpz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
David Kastrup writes:
> I think you misunderstand the goal of free software.
I don't think so, but I think you have misunderstood much of what I
argued. This is definitely not the forum for that discussion, though.
> Running after software maintainability and development models will
> yield increasingly more erratic results the more free software
> becomes part of the available toolset.
I don't understand. My personal belief is that use of more free
software is inducing certain changes in practice that will yield
increasing reliability.
> The point of freedom is not be a better hook. In practice, that often
> turns out to be the way how freedom propagates, but it is actually a
> pity to trade it as a marketable good.
That is exactly my complaint about Richard's post, a point you
evidently missed. He tried to trade for something that was very
likely available for the asking, and *should* be available for the
asking, for several reasons.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-15 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-13 17:04 Participation Requested: Survey about Open-Source Software Development Jeffrey Carver
2011-06-13 19:59 ` Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source" Richard Stallman
2011-06-14 3:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-14 16:00 ` opensourcesurvey
2011-06-14 22:42 ` Karl Fogel
2011-06-15 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-14 23:48 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-15 4:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-15 10:14 ` David Kastrup
2011-06-15 10:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-06-15 11:00 ` David Kastrup
2011-06-15 16:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2011-06-15 11:41 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-15 11:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-15 12:52 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-15 13:19 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-15 13:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-06-15 14:06 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-06-15 15:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-06-15 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-15 19:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-15 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-16 4:22 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-16 5:10 ` Paul Eggert
2011-06-16 5:19 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-16 16:59 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2011-06-16 20:11 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-18 1:02 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-16 16:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-16 16:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-16 17:26 ` David Kastrup
2011-06-17 6:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-17 8:21 ` David Kastrup
2011-06-17 10:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-17 15:29 ` David Kastrup
2011-06-17 20:13 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-06-17 20:37 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-17 20:59 ` Glenn Morris
2011-06-19 14:33 ` Yet another generic "free" vs. "open source" thread Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-17 20:56 ` Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source" Jambunathan K
2011-06-17 21:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-06-18 11:36 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-17 10:16 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-17 15:33 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-06-17 19:06 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-17 19:41 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-17 23:21 ` PJ Weisberg
2011-06-19 11:47 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-19 19:51 ` dired "dwim" mode seems to fail now Randal L. Schwartz
2011-06-19 23:58 ` whda
2011-06-20 1:19 ` Tim Cross
2011-06-21 15:49 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2011-06-20 9:00 ` martin rudalics
2011-06-20 23:37 ` whda
2011-06-17 12:06 ` Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source" Richard Stallman
2011-06-19 13:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-20 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-16 0:54 ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-16 4:23 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-16 5:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-06-16 6:50 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-14 4:51 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-06-15 8:26 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-15 11:41 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-15 12:11 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-15 13:47 ` Sean Sieger
2011-06-15 14:18 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-15 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-16 4:34 ` Miles Bader
2011-06-16 5:47 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-16 20:11 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-15 13:59 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-15 14:55 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-15 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-16 6:04 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-06-16 6:36 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-16 8:17 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-06-16 9:57 ` cp
2011-06-16 10:40 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-06-16 14:24 ` David Kastrup
2011-06-16 16:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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