From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:23:07 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fwj47jas.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <8762k095n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318011817 25766 80.91.229.12 (7 Oct 2011 18:23:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:23:37 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 07 20:23:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCF53-0006Ri-46 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:23:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47443 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCF52-0003V0-Mn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:23:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49332) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCF50-0003Ut-71 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:23:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCF4y-0007IJ-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:23:30 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCF4y-0007IE-PT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:23:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCF4x-0006QH-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:23:27 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.133 ([38.98.147.133]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:23:27 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.133 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:23:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.133 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/Enkmd1YG7cVZit3OzNcBAL2OEU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144712 Archived-At: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:37:42 -0400 Glenn Morris wrote: GM> Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> I think it would benefit the GNU Emacs project, the Emacs developers and >> maintainers, and the Emacs community as a whole if there was an official >> read-only Git mirror of the Emacs repository that was updated with every >> Bazaar push. GM> I just want to make the point that since Bazaar is a GNU project, IMO GM> this would not benefit the GNU project as a whole. (I'm not saying don't GM> do it, just making a point.) I have seen many projects (including Emacs) that provide tarballs as a convenience to users, even though they use something else as their VCS. So to me, this is just an improved tarball with the commit history. It happens to be in the Git format and thus many nice tools can use it and synchronization is easy. But it's explicitly no better than a tarball for the purpose of committing changes back, which is the important message IMO. If there was another DVCS format that people want as much as they have asked for Git, then provide it too. Many open-source and free projects have Subversion-to-Git and x-to-CVS bridges with the same idea, to make checkouts easier without endorsing the delivery mechanism. I don't think it's disingenuous to do this. Ted