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From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:12:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwimkvl3.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvsjmmdypw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:52:45 -0400")

On 21 Oct 2011, Stefan Monnier spake thusly:
>> True! So it wouldn't be as hellish to write our own allocator as it
>> would be for most projects, because we've done 90% of the work already
>> (including the hard part: allocating things of variable size).
>
> Actually, no, that doesn't include the hard part: we only do our own
> allocation for fixed-size objects (cons, floats, markers&overlays,
> symbols, string headers) plus relocatable variable size objects (string
> text).  For the non-relocatable, non-fixed size objects (i.e. vectors)
> we defer to malloc.

Oh heck. I assumed that were were allocating the strings themselves, not
just their headers, and didn't check the source code. Mea culpa.

>> Yeah. As an aside: most of the inside of Emacs is quite nice, but I am
>> seriously unimpressed by overlay storage. Linear scans for
>> 'overlays-at'? Ew. One of these years I might try to implement something
>> better, like what XEmacs did for extents, so you can find extents over a
>> given buffer position more efficiently... (not because this is visibly a
>> problem in profiles that I've seen, merely because the inefficiency
>> offends me :) )
>
> Yes, overlays (and to some extent markers) are in serious needs of
> a redesign.  We get bitten by this performance problem, which is why
> a lot of code goes through a fair bit of trouble to avoid overlays and
> use text-properties instead (and the code that doesn't bother doing
> that is usually only usable on small buffers).

Oh good. On my huge todo list it goes then!



  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-21 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-13  9:24 Emacs bzr memory footprint Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 10:33   ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-13 10:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 13:08       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 13:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 15:22           ` Miles Bader
2011-10-13 15:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 16:16               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 17:33                 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-13 18:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14  3:09                     ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-13 16:46             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-13 16:59               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 13:13   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 13:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 14:10       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-13 14:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 15:05           ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-13 14:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 16:55         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-13 17:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-14 12:11             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 21:02             ` John Wiegley
2011-10-15  1:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 17:22           ` Richard Riley
2011-10-13 16:12       ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-13 20:18     ` chad
2011-10-14 12:13       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 12:18         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 15:49           ` Sven Joachim
2011-10-14 16:30             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-14 16:48               ` Sven Joachim
2011-10-14 17:16                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-15 18:12                 ` Sven Joachim
2011-10-20 13:35                 ` Nix
2011-10-20 23:02                   ` John Wiegley
2011-10-21  0:19                     ` Nix
2011-10-21  8:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 12:05                         ` Nix
2011-10-21 12:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 12:47                             ` Nix
2011-10-21 14:30                               ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-21 15:22                                 ` Nix
2011-10-21 18:29                                   ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-21 18:36                                     ` Nix
2011-10-21 13:30                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-21 15:02                         ` Nix
2011-10-21 17:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-21 19:12                             ` Nix [this message]
2011-10-21 15:34                         ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-10-21 18:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-21 18:27                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-21 18:58                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 19:11                               ` Nix
2011-10-21 20:18                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-21 20:21                                   ` Nix
2011-10-22  7:34                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-22  8:30                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-22 12:03                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-22 16:08                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-27 22:10                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-28  6:40                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28  9:34                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-28  9:47                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 10:22                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-28 10:36                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 11:52                                                 ` valgrind warnings [Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint] Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 14:08                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-28 14:38                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 15:17                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-28 15:35                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 15:27                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 16:34                                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 18:36                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 18:51                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 18:52                                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-28 19:03                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-28 15:08                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-04 21:11                                                     ` Florian Weimer
2011-10-28 20:20                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-29  3:40                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-29  7:04                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-29 16:25                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-11-04 12:51                                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-04 13:08                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-11-04 15:50                                                             ` valgrind warnings Paul Eggert
2011-11-04 17:37                                                             ` valgrind warnings [Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint] Stefan Monnier
2011-11-04 19:10                                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-04 20:56                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2011-11-05 22:08                                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-06  2:34                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2011-11-06 12:37                                                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-11-07  1:13                                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2011-10-29  9:10                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-22  8:44                               ` Emacs bzr memory footprint Sven Joachim
2011-10-22 11:57                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-23 18:04                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-25 17:35                         ` Nix
2011-10-25 20:23                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-25 20:34                             ` Nix
2011-10-26 14:52                             ` gnutls memory leak [Was: Re: Emacs bzr memory footprint] Chong Yidong
2011-10-27  6:10                               ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-27 22:01                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-28 12:04                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-28 17:29                                     ` Nix
2011-10-27 22:03                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-10-13 21:23 ` Emacs bzr memory footprint Dan Nicolaescu
2011-10-14 13:04 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-10-14 18:13 ` James Cloos
2011-10-17 20:52   ` Juri Linkov
2011-10-17 23:34     ` James Cloos
2011-10-18  7:24       ` Andreas Schwab

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