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From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: egnarts-ms <egnartsms@gmail.com>,
	Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	Emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:19:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwemb82m.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120207221653.GC17530@acm.acm> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:16:53 +0000")

On 7 Feb 2012, Alan Mackenzie said:
>     Testing awk-face-1.awk (fonts)  Buffer is read-only: #<buffer *cc-test*>
>
> .  This doesn't happen with XEmacs (though other errors do).

Thank you! Something for me to look at this weekend :) I may get
nowhere, we'll see...

>> The latest objection is that dumping CL would Emacs would increase the
>> size of the printed and bound Emacs Lisp Reference Manual from the
>> FSF. I find this objection unconvincing because it applies to _any_ new
>> feature, and I don't think we're against adding new features to Emacs.
>
> I'd recommend not changing the policy on CL until it acquires a rigorous
> test suite.  I don't really trust it beyond use at byte-compile time.

To be honest, if the errors are that weird they may not be in cl at all
but in the Lisp evaluator (it is unarguable that cl makes use of some
elisp features to a degree that few other packages do). If the bug is in
there, would it still suggest that a cl testsuite was necessary?

-- 
NULL && (void)



  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-07 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-06 14:18 CL package serious deficiencies egnarts-ms
2012-02-06 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-06 21:53   ` Drew Adams
2012-02-07  3:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-07 12:04       ` egnarts-ms
2012-02-07 17:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08 13:15           ` egnarts-ms
2012-02-08 19:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-07 12:29     ` egnarts-ms
2012-02-07 18:43     ` Nix
2012-02-07 19:11       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 19:15         ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-07 20:54           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:03         ` John Wiegley
2012-02-07 21:06         ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:08           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:10             ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:12               ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:23                 ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:29                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:30                     ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:32                   ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-07 21:34                   ` Daniel Colascione
2012-02-07 21:42                     ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-08  1:53                       ` Leo
2012-02-07 22:16                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-02-07 22:19                       ` Nix [this message]
2012-02-08 13:28                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-08 15:00                       ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-09  6:29                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-09 14:23                           ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-10 15:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-10 18:36                               ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 15:52                             ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 16:23                               ` Drew Adams
2012-02-10 16:42                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09  6:30                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-09 13:56                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 15:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-10 18:34                               ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 15:48                           ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 18:29                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  2:07                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-07 22:41               ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-07 23:10                 ` Nix
2012-02-08 13:42                   ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 13:46                     ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 13:51                       ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 15:29                         ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 15:39                           ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 15:43                             ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 14:26                     ` Drew Adams
2012-02-08 13:15         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-02-09  7:33           ` spam- or registry-related things in Gnus need cl at run-time? (was: CL package serious deficiencies) Reiner Steib
2012-02-09 16:39             ` spam- or registry-related things in Gnus need cl at run-time? Teemu Likonen
2012-02-07 23:48       ` CL package serious deficiencies Stefan Monnier
2012-02-07 23:52         ` Nix
2012-02-08  0:10           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08  0:15             ` Nix
2012-02-08  1:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08 23:43                 ` Nix
2012-02-09 21:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  2:13           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-08  2:19             ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08  4:23               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-08 11:00                 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 17:42           ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-08 19:54             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  0:38         ` Daniel Colascione
2012-02-08  1:32           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08  1:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  2:26             ` Daniel Colascione
2012-02-08 22:28       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-08 22:32         ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 23:35         ` Nix
2012-02-09 19:42           ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-09 19:46             ` Nix
2012-02-10  1:09         ` John Wiegley
2012-02-10 14:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 15:08           ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-10 15:35             ` Drew Adams
2012-02-10 18:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 18:21                 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-10 15:24           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-10 18:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 18:26               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-10 18:47               ` Johan Bockgård
2012-02-10 17:12           ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-10 18:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 18:55               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-10 19:08               ` Teemu Likonen
2012-02-11 13:25                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-11 16:56                   ` Johan Bockgård
2012-02-11 22:33                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-12  4:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 15:53                   ` Teemu Likonen
2012-02-12 16:52                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 16:55                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 23:56               ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-12  4:47                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 17:39                   ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-12 18:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 18:58                       ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-19 12:52         ` Dimitri Fontaine

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