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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Paul Michael Reilly <pmr@pajato.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:54:49 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fw8be692.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Sv7Ws-0004Q2-Tj@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:02 -0400")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>     Someone tell me again why it is a bad idea to develop a
>     Chrome/Chromium (browser or Chrome OS) plugin that is
>     essentially just the basic Emacs bits that we know and love?
>
> For one thing, I am concerned people might use it in Chrome, which
> is nonfree software with a universal back door.  If that caught on,
> it would be a disaster in terms of our primary goal: giving users
> freedom.

Wait, doesn't Emacs run on lots of nonfree systems?

>     The underlying premise is that there are no "desktop" apps
>     available on this imagined system, just web apps and browser
>     plugins.

Is this a meaningful distinction?  I mean, on a system where the
browser is the main "shell," and the browser makes sufficiently
powerful mechanisms available, isn't a web app / browser plugin an
"app" as far as the user can tell?

> That IS a disaster, in terms of users' freedom.  It pushes users
> into total dependence on servers.

What if it's their server ...?

-miles

-- 
Kilt, n. A costume sometimes worn by Scotchmen [sic] in America and Americans
in Scotland.



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-29  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-27 16:47 Emacs Webapp/Plugin Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-27 18:13 ` joakim
2012-07-27 23:56 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-07-28  2:56   ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-28 21:26     ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 10:53       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-29 15:21         ` Bastien
2012-07-29 16:14         ` William Gardella
2013-10-04 10:03         ` Alex Bennée
2013-10-04 15:39           ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-05 16:48             ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-06 18:59               ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-07 13:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-28 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-29  0:54   ` Miles Bader [this message]
2012-07-29 11:18     ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-08-05 17:06     ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-08  5:19       ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 11:11   ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-30  1:47     ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-30  2:34       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-07-30  8:30         ` joakim
2012-07-31 22:32           ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:49             ` chad
2012-08-01  9:20               ` joakim
2012-08-01 22:42                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02  7:41                   ` joakim
2012-08-02 23:38                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:09                       ` joakim
2012-08-04  5:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02 23:38                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:27                       ` joakim
2012-08-04  5:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04  8:13                           ` joakim
2012-08-04  2:43                       ` Jason Rumney
2012-08-05  0:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:32         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04 10:06       ` Miles Bader
2012-08-04 13:01         ` Lennart Borgman
2012-08-04 15:38           ` Nix
2012-08-05  0:04         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-05  0:31           ` Miles Bader
2012-08-05 21:01             ` Richard Stallman

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