From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Paul Michael Reilly <pmr@pajato.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:54:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fw8be692.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Sv7Ws-0004Q2-Tj@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:58:02 -0400")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> Someone tell me again why it is a bad idea to develop a
> Chrome/Chromium (browser or Chrome OS) plugin that is
> essentially just the basic Emacs bits that we know and love?
>
> For one thing, I am concerned people might use it in Chrome, which
> is nonfree software with a universal back door. If that caught on,
> it would be a disaster in terms of our primary goal: giving users
> freedom.
Wait, doesn't Emacs run on lots of nonfree systems?
> The underlying premise is that there are no "desktop" apps
> available on this imagined system, just web apps and browser
> plugins.
Is this a meaningful distinction? I mean, on a system where the
browser is the main "shell," and the browser makes sufficiently
powerful mechanisms available, isn't a web app / browser plugin an
"app" as far as the user can tell?
> That IS a disaster, in terms of users' freedom. It pushes users
> into total dependence on servers.
What if it's their server ...?
-miles
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-29 0:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-27 16:47 Emacs Webapp/Plugin Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-27 18:13 ` joakim
2012-07-27 23:56 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-07-28 2:56 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-28 21:26 ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 10:53 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-29 15:21 ` Bastien
2012-07-29 16:14 ` William Gardella
2013-10-04 10:03 ` Alex Bennée
2013-10-04 15:39 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-05 16:48 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-06 18:59 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-07 13:36 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-28 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-29 0:54 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2012-07-29 11:18 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-08-05 17:06 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-08 5:19 ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 11:11 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-30 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-30 2:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-07-30 8:30 ` joakim
2012-07-31 22:32 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:49 ` chad
2012-08-01 9:20 ` joakim
2012-08-01 22:42 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02 7:41 ` joakim
2012-08-02 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:09 ` joakim
2012-08-04 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:27 ` joakim
2012-08-04 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04 8:13 ` joakim
2012-08-04 2:43 ` Jason Rumney
2012-08-05 0:04 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:32 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04 10:06 ` Miles Bader
2012-08-04 13:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-08-04 15:38 ` Nix
2012-08-05 0:04 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-05 0:31 ` Miles Bader
2012-08-05 21:01 ` Richard Stallman
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