From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com>,
emacs devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: random doesn't feel very random
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:45:00 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fw7cuqub.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50374504.4050807@cs.ucla.edu>
Paul Eggert writes:
> On 08/24/2012 12:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > That doesn't mean there are no such experts among Emacs developers,
> > it just means I haven't seen anybody display appropriate credentials
> > on emacs-devel.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "credentials".
That doesn't really matter. The point is what the credentials are
for. I wrote:
Even using /dev/urandom to generate the seed would be overkill in
almost all applications, and I wouldn't trust anybody in Emacs to
write code for an application that needs that level of randomness.
You see, I'm not talking about credentials for *implementing* a
(P)RNG, I'm talking about *using* it. I'm saying that if you *need* a
(P)RNG of that quality, nobody I know could write the rest of the
application in Emacs Lisp and be sure it's as good as the (P)RNG is.
That doesn't mean there's anything *wrong* with implementing a better
PRNG for Lisp. But I personally wouldn't bother. random(3) is plenty
good enough for me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-24 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-24 5:47 random doesn't feel very random Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24 6:22 ` Tassilo Horn
2012-08-24 17:19 ` random doesn't feel very random, random doesn't feel very random, " Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24 18:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-25 7:46 ` Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24 6:30 ` Leo
2012-08-24 22:48 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-24 22:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-08-25 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-25 23:25 ` Leo
2012-08-26 13:12 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-26 14:24 ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-26 23:22 ` Leo
2012-08-27 0:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-27 6:31 ` Simon Leinen
2012-08-27 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-27 4:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-31 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-31 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-31 15:23 ` chad
2012-08-31 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-31 19:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-01 1:18 ` Paul Eggert
2012-09-01 7:19 ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-01 13:19 ` Paul Eggert
2012-09-04 19:19 ` Nix
2012-09-04 20:07 ` Paul Eggert
2012-09-04 20:11 ` Nix
2012-09-02 12:27 ` Jason Rumney
2012-09-02 13:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-01 7:22 ` Ivan Kanis
2012-09-01 11:13 ` joakim
2012-08-31 23:04 ` Leo
2012-08-27 5:17 ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-31 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-31 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-31 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-26 9:06 ` Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24 7:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-24 9:10 ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-24 17:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2012-08-24 12:45 ` OT: appropriateness of "random" for playlist generation (was: random doesn't feel very random) Jeremiah Dodds
2012-08-24 14:37 ` random doesn't feel very random Drew Adams
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