Emacs user conference

Emacs user conference

[Ivan Kanis]

Hello,

A user emacs conference would consist of talks of about an hour. I think
a week end should be sufficient. If we don't have enough talks we can
split workshops in smaller group on a given topic.

They are plenty of talk proposals listed on this web site.

http://emacsconf.herokuapp.com/

I can give a talk on GTD with org mode.

And since we are speaking of GTD, what need to happens next for this
event to happen?
-- 
Ivan Kanis
http://ivan.kanis.fr

Don't look back unless you intend to go that way.
    -- Marc Holm

Re: Emacs user conference

[Burton Samograd]

Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> A user emacs conference would consist of talks of about an hour. I think
> a week end should be sufficient. If we don't have enough talks we can
> split workshops in smaller group on a given topic.
>
> They are plenty of talk proposals listed on this web site.
>
> http://emacsconf.herokuapp.com/
>
> I can give a talk on GTD with org mode.
>
> And since we are speaking of GTD, what need to happens next for this
> event to happen?

What city/country/continent are you thinking of holding it?

--
Burton

Re: Emacs user conference

[joakim]

Burton Samograd <burton@samograd.ca> writes:

> Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A user emacs conference would consist of talks of about an hour. I think
>> a week end should be sufficient. If we don't have enough talks we can
>> split workshops in smaller group on a given topic.
>>
>> They are plenty of talk proposals listed on this web site.
>>
>> http://emacsconf.herokuapp.com/>
>> I can give a talk on GTD with org mode.
>>
>> And since we are speaking of GTD, what need to happens next for this
>> event to happen?
>
> What city/country/continent are you thinking of holding it?

I think this would be very interesting!

I think the original idea was to host the conference in London, but if
this doesnt manifest, my previous proposal to host the conference at my
company offices in Stockholm still stands:

http://emacsconf.herokuapp.com/proposals/40

,----
| LOCATION PROPOSAL: STOCKHOLM
| by joakim verona
| votes: 0
| I can likely provide a location free of charge, our company office. Its located in Stockholm, here: http://www.it-huset.se/kontakt/karta/ A weekend would be best.
`----

I can (likely) provide beverages and snacks free of charge as well.


>
> --
> Burton
>

-- 
Joakim Verona

Re: Emacs user conference

[Ivan Kanis]

Hi Joakim,

Good we got a place! So it will be Stockholm.

Roughly how many people can you hold comfortably in a meeting room? It's
important to know so that we don't get too many people.

When we did a Org Mode conference in Paris in 2012 we were very
surprised that 12 people turned up.

The next question is when?

I think like you that a week-end is best. I can't think talking about
emacs for more than two days. I am thinking between April and June 2013.

I am only saying this because warm weather puts me in a good mood. It
could be done sooner.

I don't think we should do it in July or August because most people
takes their holiday then... [1]

Take care,

Ivan Kanis

[1] Well in France at least ;)

Re: Emacs user conference

[Nic Ferrier]

Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> writes:

> Good we got a place! So it will be Stockholm.
>

> The next question is when?
>
> I think like you that a week-end is best. I can't think talking about
> emacs for more than two days. I am thinking between April and June
> 2013.

That's a shame. I would like to come and present Elnode. But I wouldn't
do a weekend.

My understanding is that the guy who started the emacsconf.herokuapp.com
IS planning to do a conference in London in March/April time.



Nic Ferrier

Re: Emacs user conference

[Bastien]

Hi Nic,

Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk> writes:

> My understanding is that the guy who started the emacsconf.herokuapp.com
> IS planning to do a conference in London in March/April time.

It would be nice if he can send an update on this list.

I'd be glad to be part of it if it happens, I have some 
experience with organizing big events.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs user conference

[Ivan Kanis]

Hello,

The next action is to decide when this will happen. I propose May, 15.
Is that date agreeable with everyone?

I think we should narrow the discussion to one mailing list. I think
help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org is the best. Do you agree with me?

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:

> I'd be glad to be part of it if it happens, I have some 
> experience with organizing big events.

That's great. I have never done it.
-- 
Ivan Kanis
http://ivan.kanis.fr

'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never have loved at all.
    -- Alfred, Lord Tennyson

Re: Emacs user conference

[Bastien]

Hi Ivan,

Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> writes:

> The next action is to decide when this will happen. I propose May, 15.
> Is that date agreeable with everyone?

I think the first action is to make sure *someone* is in charge
of coordinating.  I can't volonteer for this right now.  Can we
contact the person behind http://emacsconf.herokuapp.com/ and
ask him to confirm he's in charge?

> I think we should narrow the discussion to one mailing list. I think
> help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org is the best. Do you agree with me?

I do -- I removed the other lists.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs user conference

[Nic Ferrier]

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

>> The next action is to decide when this will happen. I propose May, 15.
>> Is that date agreeable with everyone?
>
> I think the first action is to make sure *someone* is in charge
> of coordinating.  I can't volonteer for this right now.  Can we
> contact the person behind http://emacsconf.herokuapp.com/ and
> ask him to confirm he's in charge?

I have said several times that he is planning it. I'm sorry people don't
find me authoritative enough.

I asked him to come here and make a statement to stop people running
away with it because I think two conferences within weeks of each other
would be very very bad.



Nic Ferrier

Re: Emacs user conference

[Bastien]

Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk> writes:

> Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
>
>>> The next action is to decide when this will happen. I propose May, 15.
>>> Is that date agreeable with everyone?
>>
>> I think the first action is to make sure *someone* is in charge
>> of coordinating.  I can't volonteer for this right now.  Can we
>> contact the person behind http://emacsconf.herokuapp.com/ and
>> ask him to confirm he's in charge?
>
> I have said several times that he is planning it. I'm sorry people don't
> find me authoritative enough.

I'm sorry I did not read the thread carefully enough.

If he is actually working on it, then everything is fine.

Now let's wait for him to write on this mailing list.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs user conference

[Nic Ferrier]

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> If he is actually working on it, then everything is fine.
>
> Now let's wait for him to write on this mailing list.

That would be great coz he's just temporarily busy but he has been
working hard on it all year.

Re: Emacs user conference

[Ivan Kanis]

Hi Nic,

Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk> a écrit

> I have said several times that he is planning it. I'm sorry people don't
> find me authoritative enough.

What's his name? How do we join him?

> I asked him to come here and make a statement to stop people running
> away with it because I think two conferences within weeks of each other
> would be very very bad.

Why would it be bad? As far as I am concerned the more emacs meetings I
attend to the better.

Take care,
-- 
Ivan Kanis
http://ivan.kanis.fr

Nous parcourons le temps présent avec nos bagages, nous allons et nous
sommes complets à tous les instants.
    -- Charles-Louis Philippe

Re: Emacs user conference

[Nic Ferrier]

Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> writes:

>> I have said several times that he is planning it. I'm sorry people don't
>> find me authoritative enough.
>
> What's his name? How do we join him?

I've asked him to join emacs-devel. He's agreed to do that but he's busy
with work, please be patient.


>> I asked him to come here and make a statement to stop people running
>> away with it because I think two conferences within weeks of each other
>> would be very very bad.
>
> Why would it be bad? As far as I am concerned the more emacs meetings I
> attend to the better.

Well that's great for you. But if people are asked to speak at both they
will probably have to choose which to attend and that will dilute the
attraction of both events.

It would be better to have 1 kick ass emacs event a year than to have 2
poor ones.



Nic Ferrier

Re: Emacs user conference

[David Combs]

How do we join this email-list ("listserv"?)?

David

Re: Emacs user conference

[joakim]

Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk> writes:

> Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Good we got a place! So it will be Stockholm.
>>
>
>> The next question is when?
>>
>> I think like you that a week-end is best. I can't think talking about
>> emacs for more than two days. I am thinking between April and June
>> 2013.
>
> That's a shame. I would like to come and present Elnode. But I wouldn't
> do a weekend.

I think the office can handle 200 people during events. Office hours we
can only have one room, like 20 people or so(so, 20 people during
weekday work hours, evenings and weekends 200 people)

> My understanding is that the guy who started the emacsconf.herokuapp.com
> IS planning to do a conference in London in March/April time.
>

That would be nice! Anyway, I wouldnt be able to put in much in the way
of planning, so if a better organizer can find us a locale, that is
probably for the best. (or I can ask our admin to help us, they are
proficient at that sort of thing)

>
>
> Nic Ferrier

-- 
Joakim Verona

Re: Emacs user conference

[Nic Ferrier]

Nic Ferrier wrote:
>> My understanding is that the guy who started the emacsconf.herokuapp.com
>> IS planning to do a conference in London in March/April time.

joakim@verona.se replied:

> That would be nice! Anyway, I wouldnt be able to put in much in the way
> of planning, so if a better organizer can find us a locale, that is
> probably for the best. (or I can ask our admin to help us, they are
> proficient at that sort of thing)

well, as I say. It would be annoying if there were 2 at the same time.

He *is* working on it. He has a venue. He has speakers (the emacsconf
heroku app was setup by him).

So I think you should maybe let him get on with it?

Re: Emacs user conference

[joakim]

Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk> writes:

> Nic Ferrier wrote:
>>> My understanding is that the guy who started the emacsconf.herokuapp.com
>>> IS planning to do a conference in London in March/April time.
>
> joakim@verona.se replied:
>
>> That would be nice! Anyway, I wouldnt be able to put in much in the way
>> of planning, so if a better organizer can find us a locale, that is
>> probably for the best. (or I can ask our admin to help us, they are
>> proficient at that sort of thing)
>
> well, as I say. It would be annoying if there were 2 at the same time.
>
> He *is* working on it. He has a venue. He has speakers (the emacsconf
> heroku app was setup by him).
>
> So I think you should maybe let him get on with it?


Cool, I'll do that.
-- 
Joakim Verona

Re: Emacs user conference

[David Combs]

In article <mailman.14759.1354889046.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Ivan Kanis  <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Hi Joakim,
>
>Good we got a place! So it will be Stockholm.
>
>Roughly how many people can you hold comfortably in a meeting room? It's
>important to know so that we don't get too many people.
>
>When we did a Org Mode conference in Paris in 2012 we were very
>surprised that 12 people turned up.
>
>The next question is when?
>
>I think like you that a week-end is best. I can't think talking about
>emacs for more than two days. I am thinking between April and June 2013.
>
>I am only saying this because warm weather puts me in a good mood. It
>could be done sooner.
>
>I don't think we should do it in July or August because most people
>takes their holiday then... [1]
>
>Take care,
>
>Ivan Kanis
>
>[1] Well in France at least ;)
>

How about first getting a list of who's interested in coming,
AND WHERE THEY LIVE.

Then, in these super-tight austerity-ridden times, choose where
to hold thing based on some try to minimize total travel 
and hotel cost.

For instant, if 90% of the people come from Boston and MIT,
well, obviously, hold it there.

---

There's also hotel costs.  Anyone flying n thousands of miles for
a weekend conference is probably going to want to spend at least
some time looking around.  

Now, at least with some (maybe all) Perl conferences are held 
in the summertime at various universities, where low-cost dorm
rooms are made available.

Back to the duration question.  Flying all that distance for just
two days is a "justify it to the boss" problem.  Even if the
"boss" is one's spouse.


Just food for thought!

David

Re: Emacs user conference

[David Combs]

Me again -- separate post for separate idea.


We have all this super technology these days, just
sitting on our desks: webinars, skype, etc.

Also available, maybe, to those who for one reason
or another are unable to travel to wherever, how
about the presentations also be on-line, with viewers
able to ask questions.

Of course they miss the dinners and bar hopping, but
it's sure better than nothing.

Perhaps some could even do their presentations from, eg,
home.

Question: is the quality of the video and audio good enough?

(This "Pandora.com" music-site is hi-fi, as far as my old ears
can tell.)


----

I recall ages ago a presentation at Indiana University c.s.
dept done via some nifty program in x-emacs.

The presenter could write down formulas, loops, 
calls, etc, just as on a blackboard, but then
could execute stuff right there in the same window,
interspersed among the "blackboard" stuff.

I think the guy (prof) was from some college whose
name started in "G"?


David

Re: Emacs user conference

[Oleksandr Gavenko]

On 2012-12-12, David Combs wrote:

> We have all this super technology these days, just
> sitting on our desks: webinars, skype, etc.

A few day before:

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Emacs user conference
> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:12:05 -0500 (6 days, 20 hours, 42 minutes ago)
> Date: 2012-12-07 23:12:05+0200 Fri
> Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/155347>

> An Emacs user conference sounds useful if users are interested in it.
> ...
> -- 
> ...
> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call

Seriously, funny.

-- 
Best regards!

Re: Emacs user conference

[Richard Stallman]

An Emacs user conference sounds useful if users are interested in it.
But keep in mind that running a physical conference is a lot of work.
If you have not done it before, you might think it is easy,
and then be very surprised.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call