From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jay Belanger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13580: 24.2.92; regression in calc-convert-units Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:56:11 -0600 Message-ID: <87fw164zxw.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87y5fdq72z.fsf@lukas.physics.niu.edu> <87y5fau50b.fsf@truman.edu> <20755.59013.344289.873545@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87liazq4su.fsf@gmail.com> <20756.3431.129502.895875@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87liazn9ir.fsf@gmail.com> <20756.5321.329711.746535@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <878v6z3k2p.fsf@gmail.com> <83haln8ars.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3qi514c.fsf@gmail.com> <834nhm97y9.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360335434 26365 80.91.229.3 (8 Feb 2013 14:57:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13580@debbugs.gnu.org, Roland Winkler To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 08 15:57:31 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pOH-00006v-J2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:57:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44164 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pNy-0004Ah-Ph for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:57:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43453) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pNw-0004AR-3H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pNu-0003tS-LB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pNu-0003tM-IQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pNu-0000F5-Ud for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:57:04 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jay Belanger Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13580 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13580-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13580.1360335395917 (code B ref 13580); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13580) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2013 14:56:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44352 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pNQ-0000Ek-SZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:56:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com ([209.85.219.48]:58433) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3pNL-0000Ef-HJ for 13580@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:56:29 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id j1so4092507oag.21 for <13580@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:56:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:cc:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=/xlc9W2nNrm+4p4YLeZQ9oaFTFfTlaksIH0+aM6XcaA=; b=DAk2SVlTWri9wKrtF7Lvz98r5JKcn5BRPhm0jblEu7q17vJ2pE0ZqeEdPhYFUViFjb 02Q2UKcj7IxL2e8oGDnokUxwu+iDWqEW1L5RwZj7J9VIiSLtPO+KMD4WLc+7nCVARZMt W7f3zTpGliUMvD3JortIvTP8tFzz/uK4dXb+xCezX+bXih2XA5GoX8jfusDw+QLl0mkO mtf0rbPAQ6jLM/47d2I2OppVn52y6pv22IiAgrfVJ8QZNoXZFF/2bmBZRE6Ulpn8Ivr3 scDuQkjbXzLkW3nwDw3z2EZ2uC/My6elWa0QWxHSKyg4S6TtCqhrZWY9O0o0Iv+6om+f A4Fg== X-Received: by 10.60.172.40 with SMTP id az8mr4204974oec.5.1360335383438; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:56:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from belanger-home (184-155-88-117.cpe.cableone.net. [184.155.88.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k4sm38848325oeb.5.2013.02.08.06.56.21 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:56:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <834nhm97y9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:49:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70887 Archived-At: >> I've indicated that I know what dimensionless means > > Sorry about that. I wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page > in this regard. Thanks; that's a good idea. >> Perhaps Calc should stick to (1), and let the user deal with the >> simplified expression. >> >> Or: What do you suggest? > > I'd rather hope that Roland will suggest the alternative behavior he > would like to see instead. A concrete suggestion would be nice, but should take into account the different uses for expressions where the units cancel.