From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: David Koppelman <koppel@ece.lsu.edu>
Cc: 13686@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13686: hi-yellow vs. hi-lock-1
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:06:02 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fw0i5syl.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yg5liaaacxc.fsf@sky.ece.lsu.edu> (David Koppelman's message of "Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:11:11 -0600")
David Koppelman <koppel@ece.lsu.edu> writes:
> As the original developer of hi-lock and one willing to continue
> maintaining it, let me add my voice:
>
> I feel that a face name like hi-lock-1 would be much less useful, even
> if the name itself were rendered with the highlighting. The user's
> goal is to highlight something, currently the user can go through
> face choices until he or she finds a suitable color (if the first one
> does not satisfy). A cryptic name like hi-lock-1 just puts irrelevant
> information in front of the user, assuming the name is highlighted
> with the color.
New option `hi-lock-auto-select-face' makes selection of faces
redundant. So with auto-selection on, one doesn't even have to pick.
One merely gets on with one's business of making sense of code/text at
hand.
Here is my original use-case
,---- http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11095
|
| 2) Make `hi-lock-face-buffer' use a different face on each invocation.
|
| Here is a real-world usecase for the above request.
|
| As a programmer, I use highlighting to trace variable dependencies
| within a function. For example, in the example below, after
| highlighting the variables in __different__ faces, I will come to the
| conclusion that "a" depends on "d" and "tmp".
|
| c = d;
| b = c + tmp;
| a = b;
|
| And I use this very often to track variables and how they get their
| values from.
|
| If I were to use the default Emacs provided behaviour then I would
| have to press M-n multiple times as I highlight more and more
| symbols. (Typically I have 3-5 symbols highlighted before I turn off
| highlighting.)
|
`----
> A name like font-lock-comment-face is semantic because it indicates
> the purpose of the face. The purpose of hi-yellow is to highlight
> something in yellow, so in that sense the name is semantic.
In would consider `hi-yellow' a "constant" face. I am not questioning
the usefulness or rationale of original choice - I am convinced that it
is useful.
I am merely presenting one another use-case. We can have both constant
faces and themable faces. IIRC, my original patch defaliased the
hi-yellow to hi-lock-1.
> If themers felt a strong need, we could make hi-lock-face-defaults
> themable so that hi-yellow and hi-green say, could be replaced with
> hi-golden-honey and hi-grassy-green. (Or the original face names with
> slightly different tints.)
This seems like a half-hearted attempt at theming.
Remember, `highlight' face which is one of the "core" faces. My
suggestion could be considered as a case for augmenting the highlighting
faces with more numbers and have someone who is "visually adept" choose
good defaults.
The need for theming - that is multiple highlighting faces to *co-exist
simulataneously* in one's buffer - is very important. When I have 3-4
highlights in my buffer (using the current defaults) my eye hurts.
Bottomline: It is not an "one-or-the-other" proposal. Let's have best
of both worlds.
--
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-27 3:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-11 6:14 bug#13686: 24.3.50; Re-look hi-lock-face-defaults (aka Provide more "core" faces for highlighting) Jambunathan K
2013-02-15 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-15 18:29 ` David Koppelman
2013-02-15 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-26 23:11 ` bug#13686: hi-yellow vs. hi-lock-1 David Koppelman
2013-02-27 0:33 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 1:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 3:59 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 4:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 5:10 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 5:38 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 5:54 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 6:01 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
2013-03-06 18:43 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 19:54 ` David Koppelman
2013-03-07 9:16 ` Juri Linkov
2013-03-06 19:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 3:49 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 14:56 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-06 18:56 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 19:55 ` David Koppelman
2013-03-06 20:06 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-07 0:54 ` David Koppelman
2013-03-07 3:23 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-09 1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-09 2:47 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-09 3:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-08 5:31 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 4:11 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 18:33 ` David Koppelman
2013-04-11 4:24 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 3:36 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-02-27 4:08 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-15 4:45 ` bug#13686: 24.3.50; Re-look hi-lock-face-defaults (aka Provide more "core" faces for highlighting) Jambunathan K
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