* Copying subtrees with footnotes
@ 2013-03-20 19:53 Florian Beck
2013-03-20 20:54 ` Samuel Wales
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From: Florian Beck @ 2013-03-20 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
I need to copy subtrees between org-buffers, but `org-copy-subtree'
ignores footnotes (which is technically correct, I guess). Is there any
way to automate this?
--
Florian Beck
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* Re: Copying subtrees with footnotes
2013-03-20 19:53 Copying subtrees with footnotes Florian Beck
@ 2013-03-20 20:54 ` Samuel Wales
2013-03-20 21:51 ` Florian Beck
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From: Samuel Wales @ 2013-03-20 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian Beck; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Not a direct answer to your question, but:
I find that inline footnotes solve a lot of problems:
locality of reference is a huge deal both cognitively and
for organization; they cannot be put in the wrong sections
by mistake; they can't get numbers mixed up; they can't get
deleted or commented without the corresponding part doing so
in the normal case; it is not necessary to follow them to
check to see if they are there or what they are or where
they are; they can't get refiled or separated from their
definitions by headline additions; and they trigger fewer
numbering bugs.
They also, apparently, can be copied more easily.
Samuel
On 3/20/13, Florian Beck <fb@miszellen.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to copy subtrees between org-buffers, but `org-copy-subtree'
> ignores footnotes (which is technically correct, I guess). Is there any
> way to automate this?
> --
> Florian Beck
>
>
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* Re: Copying subtrees with footnotes
2013-03-20 20:54 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2013-03-20 21:51 ` Florian Beck
2013-03-20 21:55 ` Samuel Wales
2013-03-20 23:12 ` Bastien
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From: Florian Beck @ 2013-03-20 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: Florian Beck, emacs-orgmode
Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
> I find that inline footnotes solve a lot of problems:
Absolutly. The main reason I don't generally inline footnotes is that I
don't want to *see* them. Basically, footnotes are for readers that are
not my primary audience; sometimes footnotes are only for me and I keep
them only for drafting. Either way, they are noise in the paragraph.
Same thing, when I take notes and want to see the main points at a
glance while keeping reflections out of the way.
I thought about using custom links for footnotes (which would allow me
to hide the definition), but I'm not sure that would work the same way.
Can I have other (custom) links inside the link path (or inside an
inline footnote defintion)?
Thanks for the idea, I have to investigate.
Still, the original questions stands. Maybe `org-copy-subtree' and
`org-paste-subtree' could be adapted? Problem is, these functions use
kill-region internally, and I see no easy way to add the footnote information.
--
Florian Beck
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* Re: Copying subtrees with footnotes
2013-03-20 21:51 ` Florian Beck
@ 2013-03-20 21:55 ` Samuel Wales
2013-03-20 23:12 ` Bastien
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From: Samuel Wales @ 2013-03-20 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian Beck; +Cc: Florian Beck, emacs-orgmode
On 3/20/13, Florian Beck <fb@fbeck.net> wrote:
> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>> I find that inline footnotes solve a lot of problems:
> Absolutly. The main reason I don't generally inline footnotes is that I
> don't want to *see* them. Basically, footnotes are for readers that are
Others have proposed a command to collapse and expand inline
footnotes. This would be trivial, involving invisibility property.
Do you think that would help?
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* Re: Copying subtrees with footnotes
2013-03-20 21:51 ` Florian Beck
2013-03-20 21:55 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2013-03-20 23:12 ` Bastien
2013-03-21 7:52 ` Christian Moe
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From: Bastien @ 2013-03-20 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian Beck; +Cc: Florian Beck, emacs-orgmode
Hi Florian,
Florian Beck <fb@fbeck.net> writes:
> Still, the original questions stands. Maybe `org-copy-subtree' and
> `org-paste-subtree' could be adapted?
Instead of adapting those function, I'd have a function to inline
external footnotes--and vice versa. This function would be helpful
in this case but in other situations too.
Any taker?
--
Bastien
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