From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 00:00:31 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87fvz8ioe8.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <87ehf1cwc4.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <20130331220136.GA16863@saturn> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364940440 11488 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2013 22:07:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 22:07:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 00:07:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UN9Mn-0008Es-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 00:07:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40500 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN9MO-0006E5-9j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39537) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN9G2-00052M-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:00:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN9G1-0003Fs-1W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:00:46 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56867) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN9G0-0003Fh-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:00:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UN9GM-0004J5-HZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 00:01:06 +0200 Original-Received: from amontsouris-651-1-180-69.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr ([82.123.59.69]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 00:01:06 +0200 Original-Received: from pjb by amontsouris-651-1-180-69.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 00:01:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: amontsouris-651-1-180-69.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ODUzYzE1YmIzNWMyNmVmY2M1YWFmOTIwNzg0NTkzNDA4ZDgzMTJiMQ== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158568 Archived-At: "John Wiegley" writes: >>>>>> Giorgos Keramidas writes: > >> Mercurial is used for Python itself (and quite a few other large projects), >> so its longevity is not really a very difficult question. It will be here >> for at least as long as Python, which Bazaar also uses. > > The reason (personally) why I do not want Mercurial to become the Emacs VCS is > for the same reason I don't like bzr: Because it's not used by a *single* > project whose VCS I track or contribute to. I don't know the UI, and have > never had any reason to know the UI. I'm not even sure I have Mercurial > installed! > > Meanwhile, the number of Git repositories on my machine today: 457. > > I think it's pretty clear that Git has emerged as the "winning" technology, in > terms of mind-share, adoption, excitement, etc. I run into new Git projects > constantly. Several prominent Haskell projects (such as bytestring) just > switched from Darcs to Git in order to attract contributors. Whereas I > encounter Mercurial and Bazaar, well, never. Darcs a few times, due to the > Haskell community, but only ever there. If you go there, the marketshare or mindshare of emacs is even less than that of mercurial. You can stop using emacs right now, and switch to vim or SublimeText. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.