From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? 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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90648 Archived-At: Jai Dayal writes: > I understand that you did a simple google search and couldn't find what you > were looking for (vim in calculus actually means something else), so if > you're not willing to do a little extra work and expect me to prove the > most basic trivial things, I'm going to ask you to put something on the > line, i.e., when I show you Vim's calculus plugins, you never post on this > mailing list again. deal? This is an unreasonable request. Jay put some amount of effort to find and write down an example of something that would be supposedly hard to do in Vim. If you're unwilling to reciprocate that effort by giving an example of doing that in Vim, maybe *you* should stop posting here instead. --Dmitry > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Jay Belanger wrote: > >> >> Jai Dayal writes: >> >> > If one does not know the basics of vim then one should not make such >> strong >> > incorrect statements. >> >> Like I said, eager to be offended. >> >> > Yes Vim can do calculus >> >> Cool; I didn't know that. How does vim do it? >> Honest question: emacs can do >> M-: (calc-eval "integ(x^2*exp(x),x)") >> to get >> "x^2 exp(x) + 2 exp(x) - 2 x exp(x)" >> How does vim do that? >>