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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: a) What ways can Meta be put in a command?... b) What's the difference between Esc-x and M-x
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:47:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvvrwpfr.fsf@informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.407.1373114918.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Thomas Shannon <tshanno@bearingthenews.com> writes:

> Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
>
>> Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
>>
>>>>  b) What's the difference between Esc-x and M-x
>>>
>>> In a terminal emulation M-x does not exist, you have to use
>>> Esc-x. The GNU Emacs variants with some windowing support also
>>> support the Esc-x work-around.
>>
>> On paleo-computers, was the Escape key placed anywhere else than
>> it is on today's keyboards? The reason I ask is - well, just try
>> hitting a couple of familiar shortcuts, but instead of Meta, use
>> Escape. I think it would take a master at the accordion to be
>> productive using that.
>
> 1)  Totally agree.
>
> 2) Think how bad it would be if, like the way people usually use the
> meta key, you would have to simultaneously hold down Esc and the key.
> At least you can press Esc, let up on it, then press the second key and it
> works fine.  Still awkward but, as I don't know how to play accordion,
> thank goodness its much easier.  :)

On a TTY, (see picture url in my other answer), I'm pretty sure you
could leave ESC down while pressing the other key.   Of course, it
didn't flip a bit on the next byte sent like shift or control, but
instead sent a byte 27, but for the typist, it was pretty much the same
UX.


-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.  
You know you've been lisping too long when you see a recent picture of George 
Lucas and think "Wait, I thought John McCarthy was dead!" -- Dalek_Baldwin


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-06 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-05 19:03 a) What ways can Meta be put in a command?... b) What's the difference between Esc-x and M-x Don Saklad
2013-07-05 19:16 ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found] ` <mailman.361.1373051779.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-05 20:57   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-05 21:03     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-05 21:47     ` Peter Dyballa
2013-07-06  1:47     ` Bob Proulx
2013-07-06 12:48     ` Thomas Shannon
     [not found]     ` <mailman.407.1373114918.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-06 17:47       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
     [not found]     ` <mailman.383.1373075250.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-07 18:17       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-08 16:03         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-07-09 17:34         ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]         ` <mailman.700.1373391163.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-09 19:43           ` Emanuel Berg

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