From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 19:01:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvv12r3f.fsf@informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ebdcb9c8-b59a-4002-b3cf-277d07dbebbc@default
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> http://nic.ferrier.me.uk/blog/2013_06/adding-namespaces-to-elis pis
>> a proposal to add namespaces to emacs-lisp.
>>
>> I'd be really interested in what people think about this, whether it
>> would be worth my time trying to do this or not.
>
> OK, I'll start. I am in favor of the Common Lisp spec - IOW, Common
> Lisp "packages". I am in favor of such a namespace system for Emacs
> Lisp.
>
> I read your proposal overview, Nic. It's not clear to me just what
> the differences would be from the Common Lisp package system.
> Perhaps you could spell the differences out in more detail somewhere.
>
> But the closer we can get to the CL spec the better, IMO. If we
> could conform to it completely, that would be great.
>
> Even keeping the same terminology, symbol names etc. as CL would
> help. It would help users who are coming from Common Lisp or who
> happen to read Common Lisp doc.
>
> And it would help the reuse/transfer of existing code from CL to
> Elisp. (Yes, such reuse/transfer might require some massaging, but
> similar syntax and semantics would help minimize that operation.)
>
> Of course, adopting CL terminology in this regard should mean that
> we would drop the terminology used so far for Emacs "packages".
> An argument can be made that both uses of the word "package" are
> somewhat unfortunate.
>
> At this point, I think conforming to the terminology that has been
> used in CL for 30 years is the right approach, regardless of
> whether CL "packages" are really, in effect, namespaces.
>
> So +1 for adding CL-style namespaces to Emacs Lisp. One opinion.
+1
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-26 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-26 14:08 adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?) Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 14:34 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 17:01 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2013-07-26 17:01 ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 18:26 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-07-26 18:53 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:08 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 18:32 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 18:45 ` Tom Tromey
2013-07-26 18:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 19:06 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 20:46 ` CommonLisp namespace system Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 20:57 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:47 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-29 17:31 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 20:57 ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Drew Adams
2013-07-27 7:17 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-27 8:13 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 11:43 ` Bastien
2013-07-27 12:00 ` David Engster
2013-07-27 16:56 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 23:52 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-28 7:22 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-28 8:18 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-28 12:10 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-28 13:48 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-29 10:12 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-29 10:45 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-30 0:31 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-27 9:37 ` CommonLisp namespace system Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 19:42 ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-26 21:06 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 21:44 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 7:16 ` adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?) Richard Stallman
2013-07-26 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 16:56 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 19:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 21:43 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 21:59 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 22:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 22:33 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 0:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 8:27 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 16:17 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 10:35 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 22:00 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-27 0:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 1:13 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-27 7:02 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-27 10:33 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-31 6:48 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-27 10:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-27 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 17:21 ` Davis Herring
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