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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 19:01:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvv12r3f.fsf@informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ebdcb9c8-b59a-4002-b3cf-277d07dbebbc@default

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> http://nic.ferrier.me.uk/blog/2013_06/adding-namespaces-to-elis pis
>> a proposal to add namespaces to emacs-lisp.
>> 
>> I'd be really interested in what people think about this, whether it
>> would be worth my time trying to do this or not.
>
> OK, I'll start.  I am in favor of the Common Lisp spec - IOW, Common
> Lisp "packages".  I am in favor of such a namespace system for Emacs
> Lisp.
>
> I read your proposal overview, Nic.  It's not clear to me just what
> the differences would be from the Common Lisp package system.
> Perhaps you could spell the differences out in more detail somewhere.
>
> But the closer we can get to the CL spec the better, IMO.  If we
> could conform to it completely, that would be great.
>
> Even keeping the same terminology, symbol names etc. as CL would
> help.  It would help users who are coming from Common Lisp or who
> happen to read Common Lisp doc.
>
> And it would help the reuse/transfer of existing code from CL to
> Elisp.  (Yes, such reuse/transfer might require some massaging, but
> similar syntax and semantics would help minimize that operation.)
>
> Of course, adopting CL terminology in this regard should mean that
> we would drop the terminology used so far for Emacs "packages".
> An argument can be made that both uses of the word "package" are
> somewhat unfortunate.
>
> At this point, I think conforming to the terminology that has been
> used in CL for 30 years is the right approach, regardless of
> whether CL "packages" are really, in effect, namespaces.
>
> So +1 for adding CL-style namespaces to Emacs Lisp.  One opinion.

+1

-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-26 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-26 14:08 adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?) Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 14:34 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 17:01   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2013-07-26 17:01   ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 17:19     ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 18:26       ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-07-26 18:53         ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:08         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 18:23     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 18:32       ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 18:45     ` Tom Tromey
2013-07-26 18:58       ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 19:06         ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 20:46           ` CommonLisp namespace system Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 20:57             ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:47               ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-29 17:31                 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 20:57           ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Drew Adams
2013-07-27  7:17           ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-27  8:13             ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 11:43               ` Bastien
2013-07-27 12:00                 ` David Engster
2013-07-27 16:56                   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 23:52               ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-28  7:22                 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-28  8:18                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-28 12:10                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-28 13:48                     ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-29 10:12                       ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-29 10:45                         ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-30  0:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-27  9:37             ` CommonLisp namespace system Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 19:42         ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:26       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-26 21:06     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 21:44       ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27  7:16   ` adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?) Richard Stallman
2013-07-26 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 16:56   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 18:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 19:00       ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 20:59         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 21:43           ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 21:59             ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 22:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 22:33               ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27  0:51                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27  8:27                   ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 14:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 16:17                       ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 17:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 10:35                   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 22:00           ` Drew Adams
2013-07-27  0:49             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27  1:13               ` Drew Adams
2013-07-27  7:02               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-27 10:33                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-31  6:48                   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-27 10:31               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-27 14:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 16:43                   ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 17:21   ` Davis Herring

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