From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing the language of gnus menu entries Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:45:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87fvss8wbw.fsf@web.de> References: <87eh8eekza.fsf@web.de> <874n9amatr.fsf@web.de> <87vc1p9ggs.fsf@web.de> <837ge4hpco.fsf@gnu.org> <87li2k92l8.fsf@web.de> <8338oshfy5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380141956 20499 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2013 20:45:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:45:56 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 25 22:45:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOvy9-0002sz-Qu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:45:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54667 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOvy9-0003ig-AT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:45:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60143) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOvxj-0003hc-Ba for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:45:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOvxb-0007mN-SG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOvxb-0007mG-La for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:45:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOvxZ-0002MS-7V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: from dslb-188-110-142-205.pools.arcor-ip.net ([188.110.142.205]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: from michael_heerdegen by dslb-188-110-142-205.pools.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:45:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dslb-188-110-142-205.pools.arcor-ip.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zA1n3Ci5y0zGrMN5c2N4ZAtaE1A= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93585 Archived-At: Hi Eli, > How do the menus help, if the help-echo tooltips are still in English? Yes, tooltips must be included, of course. > > But you're right about me saying that Emacs should not be localized, in > > general. > > Then I think you should refrain from participating in this thread, > which is about how to get Emacs localized. I prefer to participate, the "how" affects me, because I care about Emacs. I don't say that the goal is not desirable, I'm just skeptical about the realization. > > You won't write bug reports. > > Sorry, that's a red herring: there's always Google translate. Uff, I don't want to have to read these. > > We already see this today with the English docs: how many reports > > arriving at gnu.emacs.bug contain patches that are concerning > > documentation? > > Excuse me? Have you checked the bug tracker lately? That's great! Regards, Michael.