From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Fire defun by typing keyword Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:50:30 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87fvr2j08w.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <871u33mqj0.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87zjpjmuhj.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87k3gmbhjk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87d2mdma8f.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <1b9c3e40-fcbf-4759-a5c7-e4494ac5858e@googlegroups.com> <50960452-63dc-4283-8ab3-b505156200ae@googlegroups.com> <87habornym.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <62b2fa06-e106-44b9-9e3d-41b2ab01ef84@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384192514 12450 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2013 17:55:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:55:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 11 18:55:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vfvhm-0004tZ-Uz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:55:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38922 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vfvhm-0001L5-HQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:55:18 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:vrb/6O+l196sP3ZdoDIyba6YxxQ= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202177 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94448 Archived-At: I went to the public library today and read the current issue of "Linux Magazine", in which there is a small piece on this. Apparently, the Ubuntu people have been working on Mir as a replacement for X, mostly because they need it for the smartphone version of Ubuntu. For the laptop version, they will include a script that assesses the hardware: if it is deemed sufficient, Mir will run, and otherwise, X will run (so X will still be provided, and with XMir in between). So, in all fairness, Ubuntu did *not* drop X because of "look and feel" hysteria. They dropped it because it wasn't good enough for smartphones, and then they wanted it on laptops as well to get consistency. This is of course only mildly better than my first assessment. I don't think the other distros eventually will use Mir, so it would still have been best to just improve X (or Wayland), of course in collaboration with Debian, and all other distros that uses X (and indeed even the BSD people, perhaps!). -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573