From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Achim Gratz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs will never be a WYSIWYG-editor and should not try to Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:45:34 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <87fvqi25xd.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <2013-11-22T16-27-58@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83k3g0cnby.fsf@gnu.org> <2013-11-24T11-44-42@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83zjotbv29.fsf@gnu.org> <87iovf640c.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <5294659B.9050502@online.de> <5294E845.5070709@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385502360 27586 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2013 21:46:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:46:00 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 22:46:06 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQSL-0002u2-Ko for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:46:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32886 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQSL-0001Gd-8y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:46:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39747) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQSB-0001GP-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:46:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQS2-0003VN-QW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:45:55 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45279) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQS2-0003VF-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:45:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQS1-0002lR-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:45:45 +0100 Original-Received: from pd9eb2197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.33.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:45:45 +0100 Original-Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb2197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:45:45 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb2197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:APnZppHDVByXwzEQVTwrFAoYXCA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165790 Archived-At: Andreas Röhler writes: > If you take a look into the org-directory, you'll see several files, > whose name indicate the purpose beside from org-mode in its strict > sense. Before you send others to read those, why not have a look yourself? > Probably it would be great to have the exporter(s?) --which may output > into HTML, PDF or ODF-- available in all text-modes. You might want to take notice that the exporters do exactly nothing without org-element and org-element defines Org syntax and nothing else. > From my perspective porting org-footnote.el would pay. This too depends on the rest of Org to figure out what it is looking at and where to place the actual content (and then find it again). > Well, the code providing literal programming is quite an item by > themselves, no trivial thing. Just being surprised it should not work > outside org-mode too ;) Again, it relies heavily on the infrastructure provided by Org. There are bits and pieces in Org that would likely benefit from generalization that might re-factor them out of Org (or not, since nobody tried yet). But such refactoring would be a lot of work and you won't be able to contribute, so… Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada