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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: describe-mode "some-mode"?
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 03:56:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvgmk5ux.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.7432.1408807808.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> `help-documentation' is defined in `help-fns+.el'
> (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/help-fns%2b.el).
> It is like the vanilla function `documentation', but
> it uses `help-substitute-command-keys' so that keys
> mentioned in the help become links to their doc.

Why isn't such a helpful feature itself vanilla?

> Using only vanilla functions:
>
> (defun my-describe-mode (mode) (interactive (list
> (intern (read-string "Mode: ")))) (with-help-window
> (help-buffer) (with-current-buffer (help-buffer)
> (insert (substitute-command-keys (documentation
> mode))))))
>
> ...
>
> (defun my-describe-mode (mode) (interactive (list
> (intern (read-string "Mode: ")))) (with-temp-buffer
> (funcall mode) (describe-mode)))

And make one of those vanilla as well!

And then - as it seems only the lowercase m is employed
by the help system, for describing the current buffer
modes:

(global-set-key "\C-hM" 'my-describe-mode)

But, for message-mode, those don't give identical
output for me with respect to the minor modes. Perhaps
Gnus enables something in a hook that is not part of
plain message-mode. So you should be careful separating
when you want to describe a mode in general, and the
mode specifically in effect for the current buffer!

my-describe-mode:

    Enabled minor modes: Abbrev Auto-Composition
    Auto-Fill Global-Font-Lock Shell-Dirtrack
    Show-Paren Transient-Mark

describe-mode:

    Enabled minor modes: Abbrev Auto-Composition
    Auto-Fill Font-Lock Global-Font-Lock
    Gnus-Message-Citation Shell-Dirtrack Show-Paren
    Transient-Mark

-- 
underground experts united


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-24  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-22 17:27 describe-mode "some-mode"? lee
2014-08-22 18:21 ` Drew Adams
2014-08-23 12:49   ` lee
2014-08-23 15:29     ` Drew Adams
2014-08-30 11:29       ` lee
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7432.1408807808.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-24  1:56       ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2014-08-24  2:46         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7448.1408848386.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-31 22:27           ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-01  3:37             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.8013.1409542696.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 21:37               ` Elispers all around the world (was: Re: describe-mode "some-mode"?) Emanuel Berg
2014-09-01 22:27                 ` Jorge Araya Navarro
2014-09-01 22:29                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.8073.1409610571.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 23:10                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.8074.1409610608.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 23:17                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <mailman.7427.1408798399.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-24  2:22     ` describe-mode "some-mode"? Emanuel Berg
     [not found] ` <mailman.7404.1408731692.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-22 19:04   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-08-23  3:27     ` IELM (was: Re: describe-mode "some-mode"?) Emanuel Berg
2014-08-23 13:20       ` describe-mode "some-mode": (documentation some-mode) (was: IELM) lee
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7429.1408800080.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-24  2:05         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-08-30 11:42           ` describe-mode "some-mode": (documentation some-mode) lee
2014-08-30 22:30             ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found] <mailman.7401.1408728471.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-24  3:39 ` describe-mode "some-mode"? Rusi
2014-08-30 11:36   ` lee

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