From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Everyone, please stop making my life more difficult Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:25:14 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87fvfxxput.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140912043652.4D6D8380604@snark.thyrsus.com> <87ha0de3nl.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410506761 17563 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2014 07:26:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:26:01 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 12 09:25:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XSLEw-0001io-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:25:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSLEv-000576-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:25:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSLEk-00056x-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:25:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSLEe-0005tm-VY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:25:42 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSLEe-0005tg-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:25:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XSLEc-0001ak-HQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:25:34 +0200 Original-Received: from x2f4aad0.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.170.208]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:25:34 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by x2f4aad0.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:25:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f4aad0.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mlDCDZMkzdPku+Jd+5Mj+O0rwh8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174195 Archived-At: Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > () esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) > () Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:36:52 -0400 (EDT) > > That is what everyone should be using, now and in the future, > to avoid causing unnecessary problems for this repository > conversion and any we may have to do in the future. > > I think it's good to encounter anomalies, figure out how to > handle them, and encode that handling, rather sooner than later. > > Also, a run taking 8-10 hours indicates that another code > enhancement opportunity would be to re-slice the process from > one-shot-batch to incremental-piecemeal. A bonus side-effect of > checkpointed state is that other tools can be brought to bear > (w/ a sane data design, which i presume). Uh, we are talking about something which is supposed to be done once, ever. This is not mirroring. -- David Kastrup