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From: Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs stackexchange beta site
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 00:23:51 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvfncugw.fsf@panda.goosenet.in> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.9215.1411149649.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> writes:
| In principle, because they are centralized services, therefore single
| points of failure, or worse, of control (spying, censuring).

 I can accept that they are single points of failure.

 The point about spying could be applied to any forum, e.g., this very
 newsgroup: any agency could be monitoring it.  Did I misread the last
 point?
 
| Also, they're not present a unique (or a small number of) interfaces,
| but each web site has it's own interfaces (user interface or API).
| Therefore they are very hard to use, compared to NNTP API to which
| each user can apply consitenly the user interface he chooses.
|
| Also, sociologically, the fact that it's easy to find error messages
| or other help on Google/SX makes system authors LESS motivated to
| provide working and documented systems in the first place.
|
| This is not a good thing.

 I can accept both of these as well.
 
| Notably, it only works for popular systems.  And error messages are
| not discriminating of the various situations: often I have an error
| message and find on SX ten different situations where it was issued,
| and none matching mine.  In the end, I still have to debug by myself.

 I have faced this many times, too.

| Google/SX, it's the blind leading the blinds.

 Now, given that Emacs has (fine) manuals, comes with sources, has a
 community spread over many newsgroups and mailing lists, has the Emacs
 Wiki, and has a presence on IRC, how then is the announcement to be
 viewed?  Positively, negatively, or neutrally?

-- 
Udyant Wig
GitHub:    https://github.com/udyant
Poetry:    http://www.writing.com/main/profile/biography/frosthrone


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-19 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.9059.1410993440.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-17 23:26 ` emacs stackexchange beta site Emanuel Berg
2014-09-18  2:06   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]   ` <mailman.9072.1411006041.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-18 21:03     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-18 23:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 13:34         ` Tom
2014-09-19 14:53           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]           ` <mailman.9197.1411138427.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 19:13             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 19:58               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]               ` <mailman.9231.1411156757.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 20:24                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 20:44                   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.9235.1411159521.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 21:01                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]         ` <mailman.9194.1411136428.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 19:06           ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 19:55             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.9230.1411156541.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 20:12               ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19  6:13       ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-19 17:57         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-09-19 18:54         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-20  6:58           ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-20 15:02             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-21 10:04               ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-21 15:49                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-22  5:10                   ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-22 22:44                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]         ` <mailman.9215.1411149649.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 18:53           ` Udyant Wig [this message]
2014-09-19 19:18             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 19:22             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-19 23:46             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-09-20  1:24             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <mailman.9241.1411170621.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-20  6:14               ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-20 14:47                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-21 10:09                   ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-21 15:52                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]             ` <mailman.9244.1411176300.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-20  6:17               ` Udyant Wig
2014-09-19 18:58           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.9168.1411115739.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-19 19:01         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-17 22:36 Ian Kelling
2014-10-11 13:33 ` Bastien
     [not found] ` <mailman.10973.1413034461.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-17  0:04   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-10-17  0:16     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-10-17 21:37       ` Artur Malabarba
     [not found]       ` <mailman.11408.1413582659.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-17 22:35         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-10-18 14:33           ` Rainer M Krug
2014-10-18 17:06           ` Artur Malabarba

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