From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:12:19 +0000 Message-ID: <87fvdpkerg.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <87y4rhuant.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415715173 10395 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2014 14:12:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 15:12:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XoCBQ-0001Xy-MP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:12:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48969 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoCBQ-0001Nz-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:12:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoCBH-0001Ns-VA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:12:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoCBB-0003K2-TQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:12:27 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:55503 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoCBB-0003J4-N6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:12:21 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 04892AC0498; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:30:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D6686BA00; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:12:19 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <87y4rhuant.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:30:46 +0000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176751 Archived-At: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > It is certainly the case that I most "test" my packages by using them. > And I do not install my own packages through ELPA but live from their > VC'd repository. So, there is a worry here. This is even true during my > continuous integration tests (the dependencies are loaded from an ELPA > repo, but nothing else). > > Having said that, I generally use an automatic tool to move from the > source repository format to the package format; or, in the case of > MELPA, someone else does it for me. Once this is set up, I am struggling > to think of bugs that have come at package time. I do this too. Obvious things that break because of no package testing: - autoloads missing (only really fixed by package-install-ing) - expected depend missing (can be fixed by requiring the source in fresh emacs) Nic