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From: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Network Security Manager merge time?
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:00:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvdf2c63.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h9xvavjm.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:34:53 -0500")

>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:59:16 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>>>>> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

 TZ> I'd rather deprecate it in favor of `nsm-security-level',
 TZ> especially if you're OK with the ability to set the level per host
 TZ> or subnet, and per service.  The `gnutls-verify-error' checks are
 TZ> all 'medium I think.

 LMI> I can imagine that some people would rather leave all this up to
 LMI> gnutls...

 TZ> As far as user-level customization, I'd rather not have multiple
 TZ> variables.  The checks will be done the same way, just based on
 TZ> `network-security-level' instead of specific checkboxes like now.

	I have gnutls-verify-error set in my ~/.emacs.  After I upgrade
	to an NSM-enabled Emacs, how exactly will it get mapped to the
	NSM settings?

[…]

 TZ> I was going to say it doesn't for me on Ubuntu, but apparently in
 TZ> the last N months+years the default has changed quietly.  So now I
 TZ> have no idea how many of my known_hosts are for virtual machines or
 TZ> other disposable SSH servers.  Grrrrrrreat.  Ah, here's why, from
 TZ> the ssh_config man page:

 TZ> Note that the Debian openssh-client package sets several options as
 TZ> standard in /etc/ssh/ssh_config which are not the default in
 TZ> ssh(1): ...  · HashKnownHosts yes · GSSAPIAuthentication yes

	I’m pretty sure that this setting was there for years.  Why, the
	earliest hashed ~/.ssh/known_hosts entries I’m able to find in
	my backups right now date back to March, 2008.

 TZ> I'll be disabling that one...

	FWIW, I tend to have reservations when it comes to software
	editing my configuration files on their own.  Thus, I’ve ended
	up making known_hosts read-only, and adding ssh-keyscan(1) data
	to it manually as necessary.

-- 
FSF associate member #7257  np. Coming Home — Iron Maiden   … B6A0 230E 334A



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-19 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-19 16:22 Network Security Manager merge time? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 16:53   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 17:30     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 17:59       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 18:34         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 20:00           ` Ivan Shmakov [this message]
2014-11-19 20:25             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 21:41           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-21 11:29             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 14:20               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 16:30                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 16:46                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 17:08                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 18:20                       ` intrusive changes Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-30 13:51                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-30 15:12                           ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-30 18:07                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-02 10:03                               ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-12-02 13:50                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 18:22   ` Network Security Manager merge time? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 20:54       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:58         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 21:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-20  8:42           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20 16:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 17:28 ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 17:50   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 19:51     ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 19:56       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:06         ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 20:20           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:25             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 20:26             ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-19 20:32               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20  8:00                 ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-20  8:43                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20  9:04           ` Robert Pluim
2014-11-20 10:39             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-20 11:34               ` Robert Pluim

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