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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Counting SLOC in Emacs
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:49:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvd2i5v6.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bnnqwd9c.fsf@zigzag.favinet>


On 2014-11-29, at 10:46, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote:

> () Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
> () Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:00:42 +0100
>
>    I'm planning to run a code reading seminar for some
>    ambitious students at my faculty.  I'm wondering whether
>    it could be a good idea to study this;).
>
>    (In fact, not really - at least not in the beginning -
>    let them learn some more typical stuff before exposing
>    young minds to Emacs Lisp with its peculiarities, like
>    `interactive'.  We'll start with Python and JS, though
>    some Common Lisp is also planned.)
>
> That's like "teaching" a child to walk one leg, the first
> week, the other, the second, and together, only afterwards.
>
> Ugh; Not Recommended.
>
> Everything is peculiar in some respect.  If you choose those
> of Emacs Lisp, your students may grind their teeth but they
> will eventually learn some self-respect (and maybe some love
> for parentheses :-D).

I'm not sure if I get you.

What I meant was: in this Elisp code, you have some really atypical
things (from general programming point if view), like the tight coupling
between the language and buffer (as a data structure).  Given that my
students are beginners, some of them only exposed to really basics of
programming, I don't want them to deal with too many new concepts at
once.  I view it rather as teaching to walk the first few weeks, and
only then teaching to run;-).

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-29 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-28 11:23 Counting SLOC in Emacs Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 13:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 14:04   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 14:31     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 14:49       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 16:00         ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-29  9:46           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-29 11:49             ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2014-11-29 14:36               ` Grant Rettke
2014-12-02 20:43           ` Robert Thorpe
2014-12-02 22:10             ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]       ` <mailman.14877.1417186246.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-02 14:35         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-03  1:14           ` Leo Liu
2014-12-30 14:05             ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-31 11:50               ` Leo Liu
2014-12-31 13:25                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 16:46 ` Phillip Lord

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