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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pirate bay, w3m, and the interface is just an interface (BEST post ever)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 06:36:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvc7lyff.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.16017.1418535962.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Paul Rankin <paul@tilk.co> writes:

> Please don't perpetuate this kind of false Robin
> Hood myth, it's wilfully ignorant self-interest
> under a thin veil of trumped up "people vs the
> system" garbage. Whatever of this self-deception one
> practices, the truth is piracy is stealing from real
> people.

Digital piracy isn't stealing because stealing implies
someone loosing something. Here, nothing is lost, on
the contrary: it is multiplied.

If you are so fond of cinema and books, why don't you
want anyone that enjoys them as much as you to have
the same access to them? And not just the rich people
who can afford to buy it all without discretion?

Note that the people who isn't "rich" isn't only
third-world peasants living in huts, although they
certainly qualify. Even in Europe it is enough for a
mother to be divorced, and retired, and to have two
sons say who are problematic in behavior and thus
don't work, and this is all enough for her private
economy to not allow her to go to the cinema, or buy
the fancy magazines she likes to read.

I think it is you who are advocating stealing, because
without piracy, neither the Asian poor peasant or the
European poor-but-in-another-way mother in this
example will have the culture they need - and frankly,
deserve! Don't you agree? Don't you want them to read
your books and thus have increased life-quality?

People who are successful writers, movie-makers, or
musicians will always have money and love and
appreciation from themselves and the people around. No
one is trying to take that away from them. But you are
trying to take the culture away from people who cannot
afford it.

-- 
underground experts united


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-23  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-14  0:46 pirate bay, w3m, and the interface is just an interface (BEST post ever) Emanuel Berg
2014-12-14  1:57 ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-14  5:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-14  5:45   ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-14  8:22     ` Marko Vojinovic
2014-12-14  9:40       ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-14 14:46         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-14 15:08           ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-14 18:31             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-14 18:39           ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-14 19:00             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-14 14:59       ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-14 22:18         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <mailman.16023.1418550049.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-23  5:50         ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]     ` <mailman.16020.1418545381.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-14  9:02       ` Rusi
2014-12-14  9:43         ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-23  5:39       ` Emanuel Berg
2014-12-14 13:19     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-14 14:03       ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-14 15:20         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-14 15:25           ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-15  8:30             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.16063.1418578427.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-14 17:54             ` Rusi
2014-12-14 15:22       ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-14 14:01     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-14 14:39       ` Paul Rankin
2014-12-14 16:08         ` Rasmus
2014-12-14 22:08         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <mailman.16048.1418567978.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-17 21:28         ` Ted Zlatanov
     [not found]     ` <mailman.16043.1418565713.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-23  5:59       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <mailman.16017.1418535962.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-23  5:36     ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
     [not found] ` <mailman.16010.1418522266.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-22 22:08   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-03-24 13:52     ` Glen Stark
2015-03-25  0:54       ` Emanuel Berg

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