From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 00:03:16 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87fv8ja4m3.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> <87lhil2io1.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427925620 7194 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2015 22:00:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:00:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 02 00:00:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YdQgM-0005eB-Ak for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2015 00:00:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YdQgJ-0004aU-QT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:00:15 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 74 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xT0AP+EzqCQnrihq9pHfpm9Ujfo= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211210 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103492 Archived-At: "Gian Uberto Lauri" writes: > There are companies creating keyboards with custom > keycolors and mainly custom key labels - i have > Ctrl, Super and Meta on the low left corner of mine. There are many companies that produces keyboards that look like they have been taken straight from a science fiction movie tho not a too old one as those keyboards look way cooler. If they'd just get a touch of wear and tear they'd look awesome, like the cockpit of a space fighter or intergalactic carrier, if such exist. I love those lights and dizzy colors, for example to light a work station so you can cut firewood even in the evenings and at night. Especially when it is windy with rain it can get phsycadelic with your mind to go with it. But: on keyboards, such colors don't have any function as no one has to look down anymore and see what keys they are hitting. Also, those keyboards are ridiculously expensive, and are consumed by gamers who don't know squat about computers. They are status symbols among the kids in the neighborhood who don't know anything about life and so let such things get to their minds, endless consumerism, envy, bad blood... It is one of the things with computers, unlike for example those who walk the paths of physics, chemistry, and such, that with computers you can go anywhere from very little, while the chemists etc. can be all the brilliant they want, and sometimes are, but without the zillion dollar lab they are lucky if they can use their kitchen sink to blow up their cat's whiskers. So, is all the more a sad state that so many young men get stuck in the gamer limbo, otherwise they could do amazing things. I read somewhere that hackers are bitter. I hope I'm not, but much of what I see makes me sad, let's put it that way. > Let's assume that our code-grinder is a native > Italian (or French, Spanish or German) speaker and > he is not used to English. Or the project leader > does want symbols (i.e. variable names) being in the > mother tongue of the coders. ... In Italian "amount" > translates with "quantità" ... The Italian, French, Spanish, and German programmers are more than capable of coding in English. If they are not, which they are, they can learn while doing it, and do while learning it. This will make the better programmers as well. Source code in any other language than the old Anglo-American is a dead end for many reasons, not just the impractical side of it. Don't do it. When you write an e-mail to your mother in Genova asking for a "quantità" of cash to uphold your good-for-nothing lifestyle, that is another matter. Of course, then you should be able to use any natural language, because then it is a matter of human-human communication - the computer being a medium in between doesn't change that. Talking with the computer is another matter and that is done in code, where variable and function names are in English. Period: . -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573