From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How the backquote and the comma really work? Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:18:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87fv5ffsnx.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87vbebg1fs.fsf@mbork.pl> <1e190a42-19c5-4755-b263-4334c402619a@default> <877fqrbpij.fsf@web.de> <87ioabfwm7.fsf@mbork.pl> <87mvzn37cq.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435263561 11777 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2015 20:19:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:19:21 +0000 (UTC) To: Michael Heerdegen , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 25 22:19:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Dc7-0000Cd-3D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:19:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57349 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Dc6-0000wm-Ew for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:19:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59585) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Dbv-0000wh-Pq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Dbs-0005uy-GW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:59345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Dbs-0005ue-8m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:18:56 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EF06F2002; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:18:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Ys5qVLNEHAY; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:18:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (ipz217.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [79.190.154.217]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 731A24F607B; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:18:51 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:5e00:2:52::8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:105183 Archived-At: On 2015-06-25, at 22:05, Drew Adams wrote: >> > Interesting. I have print-quoted set to nil, however, M-: >> > (eval-expression, or in my case - icicle-pp-eval-expression) does >> > not show what you have here. Does eval-expression (or its Icicles >> > counterpart) mess with print-quoted? >> >> AFAICT the Icicles version uses the pp ("pretty print") library. pp >> binds `print-quoted' unconditionally to t when printing. That's a pity. Not Emacs-y way of doing things, I guess; IMHO, the Emacs-y way would be to bind print-quoted to pp-default-print-quoted, set to t by default;-). > Marcin, you can use `eval-expression' instead of `M-:' (i.e., even > with Icicles): > > M-x eval-expression RET > > Eval: (let ((print-quoted nil)) (read "`',foo")) RET > > (\` (quote (\, foo))) Thanks. And sorry for being too lazy to check it myself. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University