From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 03:28:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87fv2lpwv9.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87bndfauey.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87wpw0e58f.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87si6n822t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87a8suuowu.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441934976 19804 80.91.229.3 (11 Sep 2015 01:29:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 01:29:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 03:29:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaD9V-0004t0-FH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 03:29:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53399 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaD9U-0003FH-Ks for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:29:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43241) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaD9L-0003FB-L7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaD9I-0005zm-ES for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59012) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaD9I-0005zU-83 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZaD9G-0004cf-0v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 03:29:06 +0200 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 03:29:06 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 03:29:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7pnmR+2kWl9ltGnTILkazUlmFTw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107136 Archived-At: Random832 writes: > And a discussion of Lisp-dialect-based window > managers isn't complete without mentioning Sawfish, > which was briefly the default GNOME window manager. > It is built on something called "Librep", which is > described as a cross between elisp and scheme. Both stumpwm and sawfish install with no problems and executes fine by just putting either of stumpwm & sawfish & in ~/.xinitrc - however stumpwm doesn't come with the familiar M-TAB application menu by default. sawfish does, tho the menu doesn't look as nice as with openbox (which is in C, by the way). But sawfish in one way does this better than openbox, as it doesn't highlight the to-be-focused window when you iterate the menu with an annoying border. If I can find a better looking theme for sawfish, or edit it by hand, I'll take it. stumpwm also outputs lots of error messages. stumpwm also doesn't give focus to the one fullscreened window unless the mouse pointer is over it; this can be solved by DISPLAY=:0 xdotool mousemove 0 0 tho then you have to live with the annoying pointer being visible until you start typing. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573