From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19853: Acknowledgement (25.0.50; ElDoc is displayed whether eldoc-mode is enabled or not) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:02:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87fuvkeawd.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <864mqqgh3j.fsf@yandex.ru> <55AE4DA2.1060505@yandex.ru> <87wpoxko2a.fsf@web.de> <4b554a3b-bc21-859e-4cfc-3c82901ea32f@yandex.ru> <87shzlkngx.fsf@web.de> <7be513e7-2d38-1e78-46f6-03ca17d58f90@yandex.ru> <87oaa9klc5.fsf@web.de> <87k2kxkjsc.fsf@web.de> <8760wglust.fsf@web.de> <379eb804-473d-40b9-2a04-1d7daafefa08@yandex.ru> <871t74lu5n.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458533009 29209 80.91.229.3 (21 Mar 2016 04:03:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19853@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 21 05:03:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr3i-0006jf-HA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:03:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55470 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr3e-0002Ed-I3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr3b-0002EW-IP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr3W-0000dw-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr3W-0000dq-FP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr3W-0002yS-3x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Marcin Borkowski Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19853 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19853-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19853.145853295611392 (code B ref 19853); Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19853) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2016 04:02:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56102 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr36-0002xf-3n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:35044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahr33-0002xT-T3; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:02:34 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CA5A34038; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:02:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qIIF9MFMPAkS; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:02:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (98-171.echostar.pl [213.156.98.171]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A417A34036; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:02:26 +0100 (CET) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.13; emacs 25.1.50.7 In-reply-to: <871t74lu5n.fsf@web.de> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115207 Archived-At: reopen 19853 stop Hi, since it turns out I was not right, and indeed there is a legitimate wish to change the behavior, I'm reopening this bug report. Dmitry, sorry for not understanding your report in the first place. Best, M. On 2016-03-20, at 22:24, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> > Hmm, I think the only way out would be to add the stuff to the global >> > hook bindings unconditionally when eldoc is loaded - no matter whether >> > the global mode is on or not, and never remove it. And use only one >> > (buffer local) variable for controlling, `eldoc-mode', that the local >> > mode sets locally. The variable `global-eldoc-mode' would not appear in >> > the code any more. `global-eldoc-mode' would become a trivial >> > globalized minor mode that would only turn the local value of >> > `eldoc-mode' in all buffers. Would that make sense? >> >> Sounds like a viable alternative, yes. > > Then maybe let's see what others say. I think making either change > would be an improvement. > > > Michael. -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University