From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23151: 25.1.50; Emacs should have a convenient command for saving unchanged buffers Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:19:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87fuv86obk.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459347630 28219 80.91.229.3 (30 Mar 2016 14:20:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 23151@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 30 16:20:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1alGym-0001Hc-Km for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:20:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alGyl-0000UF-Bg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:20:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alGyc-0000Qg-Nk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alGyY-0001we-R9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alGyY-0001wa-NO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alGyY-0007Bw-EO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:20:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23151 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23151-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23151.145934756227585 (code B ref 23151); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2016 14:19:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alGxu-0007Ar-51 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from relaycp04.dominioabsoluto.net ([217.116.26.100]:41262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alGxr-0007Ab-7K for 23151@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:19:20 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.movistar.es (smtp09.acens.net [86.109.99.133]) by relaycp04.dominioabsoluto.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15886409C; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:19:12 +0200 (CEST) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0201.56FBE060.02AF, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Original-Received: from qcore (79.153.146.151) by smtp.movistar.es (8.6.122.03) (authenticated as 981711563$telefonica.net) id 56E354CE01345596; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:19:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:09:44 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115762 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > During an unrelated discussion on emacs-devel, it turns out that > > virtually everybody is in the habit of making a change, then deleting > > the change, just to make `C-x C-s' work. > > That's how I do it. It's convenient and natural. If certain modes are enabled, that method does not give back the original content depending on the exact keys used. > > This means that there is a > > need for Emacs to offer a command to save buffers, even if they aren't > > changed. > > I draw a different conclusion: Emacs already has a simple and obvious > way to save an unchanged buffer, so no new features are needed for this. I'll like to see that feature implemented as a safe method of forcing Emacs to save the file without altering the buffer's content.