From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23276: 25.0.92; Crash in auto-revert when file no longer present Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:52:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87fuukd3bv.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87vb3hgzr1.fsf@gmx.de> <83fuulbcq7.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1pparh3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460883261 21264 80.91.229.3 (17 Apr 2016 08:54:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 08:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , andlind@gmail.com, 23276@debbugs.gnu.org To: John Mastro Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 17 10:54:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ariT3-0002SV-Va for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 17 Apr 2016 08:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23276) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2016 08:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ariRx-00066f-IR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 04:53:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:53738) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ariRw-00066D-0s for 23276@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 04:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.42.239]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lf0M7-1bXxkY11qh-00qhub; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:52:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: (John Mastro's message of "Sat, 16 Apr 2016 19:57:12 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:C0QQABE4uYyR4Klf2tFZuByxFmK//+6VNGYR+RO6YPlToojcmNc dU5E2qq+dm6T7Ak4lCtXNe4dim2UhmS8xuyX30pGvp378kuyBW8GRwFOTM9bORNm38ycgra 72LgZ0h+9xNtDl4hBHo3nNfoIwATVdhB5NJ2r5FHFgO2GkEtAxSq13O/z7UoqsuqCW2G8pS aLvtgbNRGrdX4wtVE9UMg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:5vd6tlcsL0Y=:4ULBzTx3O/5RXyqdMVz5K4 v5Q8L0o/8innEu5/xjO6oxGCE0vFRpqIIf8MNKFH47qli7QU1pox1bblSyZuslKeZ21rG4YeC fSshOTIwuTaPxfp54wj+1L0LfPBcvlcidkwiOe97UwnFg5m2hMclthdUUI/ocAw7f7z+38IMU iXAqHzuq1z8wYzUolvRrNBJaGhBZXZWAyYQUuOOnv9BK8lTFLmHEcfwxWgI7CBhzDqY+muLU7 OWAUSbK+KDLKHSEflINkZwNwWlOYongcm1zuuIsq5GuQQgnND6a4jIN6ibiDswibb5JSaj9rY wul8rEnJ2q32/dlS781eVfUAGrJd+RMoNFkPGPW393bS6DQnfjBnPc0sURy9FhGOvg76m9Rel UGZAnRMjUdlRW2xaiPdIMFVQMIocV67BOB36Nmg+gAQH/WGxyDqOY6ZuBYFnwXoqV5d/Vp58M luwbEJ2/hClnP/Y9ez4pH3QKARNKQwIrD8Mlhv+fHEIfWcWe245XpmevTPjqeMBRZOAMi2xfU 40LPgHfRL3PZmNwRRmmtzMTEwz9i5paXV1xWI5PxW6U8SYDXRb086vjs0/7z9bAu2e0N2g4Xy aGcO2fGgYggJ8kGRCtaff8uq7DREzlmddw6g5EO+PnXTibMP+ZRk3MuvrDs5uSuCEnQrMI9+v QBtVp2/SdwBBb+lFfDvMoMaQXXgHmtwxdmtxINLBBz8fMDDp8WwkBS1uWO1r1kJOYRNnvmoiR WXYKISKPtk6pnze8+GnKEBbgVPLq8zGEZttv48zUrg4/bv7u++e9V0ZrzjoOVlJOcSCu/zqu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116557 Archived-At: John Mastro writes: > Speaking purely as a user, I think a case can be made that it really is > different. We could say: > > If the file exists, auto-revert updates the buffer based on its > (possibly empty) contents. If the file no longer exists, then there > is nothing for auto-revert to do, so it does not modify the buffer. > > However, Michael mentioned in a previous message that the buffer would > also be left non-empty if the file existed but was empty: There was a blackout, when I wrote this. I meant it exactly as you have summarized above. Sorry. We shall update the documentation, and precise it with your wording. Best regards, Michael.