From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Windows emacs-25.1 i686 vs x86_64? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209287 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > What we do know is that we get very few bug reports for Windows 98/95. > > That suggests we don't have many users on those systems. > > We could put in code in the next release to display a message, > "If you use GNU Emacs on Windows 95 or Windows 98, > please send email to . We are thinking > of deleting the support for those systems in a future Emacs version." We don't need "If you use..." -- Emacs should know OS it is using. I am happy to add this to Emacs-26 (perhaps as an addition to the splash screen). For "" we could use a debbugs email. This would then provide us a generalized mechanism for deprecation of OS support. The only difficulty I can see is finding a copy of Win 98 on which to test this. Can I suggest we add 9x, and Windows XP into the list for Emacs-26? > > The only thing that I could think of further to get more information > > would be to check the download logs; does ftp.gnu.org store user agent > > strings or equivalent. This would at least give us some evidence about > > Windows 9x -- also Windows XP. > > That is a good idea. I will investigate and see if this data is available. Phil