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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
Cc: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	emacs-org list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 20:28:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fuk08i01.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27f5cedxw.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Mon,  30 Jan 2017 10:59:39 -0500")

John Wiegley writes:
>>>>>> "DE" == David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes:
>
> DE> This is a misunderstanding. I said I wanted to move support for certain
> DE> languages and project types into ELPA, not CEDET core. I'm still of the
> DE> opinion that moving it completely to ELPA is a mistake.
>
> It would only be a mistake if other parts of core need to use it. If only
> users make use of it, then having it ELPA will be invisible to them.

It is a mistake because you are creating more moving targets and bring
them together very late in the release process. This reduces the amount
of testing that is done for those packages, so bugs will be noticed
later and the quality of the relases suffer. It moves even more work
into the RC-phase, which is already crowded and where people who can fix
those bugs might not be readily available. It removes those packages
from Emacs CI, so that breakages due to changes in core are not
immediately noticed, and often times they have to be fixed not by those
who created the breakage, but by those who notice them.

-David



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-30 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-26 13:45     ` Rasmus
2017-01-26 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-26 15:01         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26  6:19   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26  8:26   ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  1:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30  7:47   ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59     ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51       ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03  2:01         ` John Wiegley
2017-02-04 16:30           ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28       ` David Engster [this message]
2017-01-30 21:52         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:31                 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-01 15:09               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-01 18:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19             ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-01 18:51               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45           ` David Engster
2017-02-02  2:56             ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:57                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-02 14:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47                   ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57                       ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:55                 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05  7:40                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:15                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  3:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51                           ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-15  1:15                               ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-02 16:30               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? David Engster
2017-02-02 18:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:54                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05                   ` David Engster
2017-02-05  9:03                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59                       ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36                         ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03                           ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18                             ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:46                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 22:22                         ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-12 23:13                           ` John Wiegley
2017-02-13 19:35                             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-13 19:48                               ` [OT] What's wrong with Gnus citations? Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 20:57                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-14  3:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 14:59                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-13 20:56                               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? John Wiegley
2017-02-12 23:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00     ` [O] " Phillip Lord
2017-02-06 10:00       ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-12  2:22       ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  2:22         ` John Wiegley

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