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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:133097 Archived-At: When installing/updating packages a lot of messages are generated. These clutter up the *Messages* buffer and make it hard to find recent messages from before the package operation. Worse, they often cause truncation of the *Messages* buffer so that recent messages from just before the package operation are deleted. And worse yet, when one wants to inspect the output from package builds, it is often incomplete in the *Messages* buffer because there was so much output that the earlier output was lost. Setting `messages-buffer-max-lines' to a larger value is a potential work-around, but it is unclear ahead of time how large to set it. For example, if say Auctex and Org both get updated at the same time the amount of output from package is very large. A potential solution to this would be, optionally, to have the package build output go to a log file instead of to the *Messages* buffer. Only the summary messages (number of packages updated, success in updating them etc.) need be written to *Messages*. 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