From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Sharon Kimble Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: desktop-read usage and syntax ::error, strange character Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:11:46 +0100 Message-ID: <87fudshea5.fsf@skimble.plus.com> References: <6b820ba4-770c-1d87-7b4c-a582f1830dbb@mousecar.com> <87r2xdishp.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <9bb76a5b-e28b-1c17-e51a-e6b6c925e8d5@mousecar.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500462760 29679 195.159.176.226 (19 Jul 2017 11:12:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:12:40 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: GNU Emacs List To: ken Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 13:12:34 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dXmu6-0007CI-Ko for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:12:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32797 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXmuC-0005JO-31 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:12:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39510) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXmtf-0005IV-3h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXmta-0005Yw-KW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from avasout04.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]:57901) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXmta-0005Yi-EZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:11:58 -0400 Original-Received: from London.london ([31.185.147.13]) by avasout04 with smtp id mbBr1v0050HaZcX01bBsNN; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:11:54 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=cL2QihWN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=z1IzoifO1pmR3EmH2pbmig==:117 a=z1IzoifO1pmR3EmH2pbmig==:17 a=bcuNfS2tAAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=LlzXLoV6AAAA:8 a=iI7HsYTVAAAA:8 a=bAHfVwKlAAAA:8 a=ZaF98Lo6Clff4zDho5gA:9 a=Vbvq1aQCxS5WILPY:21 a=0FBQ7Upe5YaVgIce:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wUg9FoP0Ujp-NxuwsokA:9 a=ONNS8QRKHyMA:10 a=2iEpd6kxTB4J_4CIRm0H:22 a=diwpeB1DDhFXqWA7J4Up:22 a=KxyM1Xthmv57RbWRIpnN:22 a=fjrkRJ71zQ2jzMzczd-K:22 X-AUTH: skimble@:2500 In-Reply-To: <9bb76a5b-e28b-1c17-e51a-e6b6c925e8d5@mousecar.com> (ken's message of "Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:29:39 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.159.14.19 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113788 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ken writes: > On 07/18/2017 01:07 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote: >> ken writes: >> >>> For some reason, when booting after a crash, the desktop isn't loaded; = that is, the files which were >>> loaded in the previous (crashed) session aren't loaded again. I suspec= ted this was due to >>> "~/.emacs/.emacs.desktop.lock", so I deleted it. Then I close emacs an= d start it again, but still >>> the desktop isn't loaded. >>> >>> So then I try to load it by hand, ie, I run "M-x desktop-read"... this = yields the error: >>> "eval-buffer: Symbol's value as variable is void: =C3=8E". Yes, the la= st character is a capital "I" with >>> a carot above it. If, from the "*scratch*" buffer I run (desktop-read = "/home/user/.emacs.d/"), I >>> get exactly the same error message. >>> >>> Anyone know what's going on? >> I've had the same problem too, and the only thing that I can do is to >> restore my buffers from memory. I use tabbar so its a bit easier as I >> have tabs grouped by the major mode that they're using. >> >> I also back up my 'emacs.desktop' every night at 1800, along with my >> config file and my theme too, so its always possible for me to import >> any of these files if the original one gets corrupted. >> >> Thanks >> Sharon. Hi Ken, answers in line. > Sharon, thanks for your reply. There's a lot there though which I'm not u= nderstanding. For > instance, what do you meanfur that you 'restore them from memory'? And w= hat is tabbar...? and what > are tabs? I remember what files I had open before the 'emacs.desktop' corruption and I then use that memory to help me load them back into emacs. It just uses brain power and brain memory to tell me what buffers I had open, and which I therefore need to reload. Tabbar and tabbar-ruler [fn:1] help you by having each buffers title shown in tabs at the top of the emacs buffer. These tabs are similar to the tabs you can find in most internet browsers, think firefox, chromium, Vivaldi, etc. You can move very easily between them by using your mouse, or perhaps keyboard but I'm not sure of that. Anyway, every buffer is a tab, and tabs are grouped together dependant on their major mode. So all elisp buffers are grouped together, and ditto with org-mode, etc. Both programs are available from ELPA, and if you're still using your mouse then they're very worthwhile. > > I also backup my ".emacs.desktop", but just by hand at times that feel ap= propriate. Maybe I should > use a cron job like you do. Its saved my bacon on several occasions! I can recommend it :) Thanks Sharon. [fn:1] http://github.com/mlf176f2/tabbar-ruler.el =2D-=20 A taste of linux =3D http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds =3D http://www.tgmeds.org.uk DrugFacts =3D https://www.drugfacts.org.uk=20=20 Debian 9.0, fluxbox 1.3.5-2, emacs 25.1.1, org-mode 9.0.9 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEELSc/6QwVBIYugJDbNoGAGQr4g1sFAllvPnMACgkQNoGAGQr4 g1vKaw/+JxgrQ7KIZAJpTjYKgVuhFyIk8HQv1a7v2/F2f8P3PUN3bjN1MLvZ/5Dc 623iUOyrt57fq59zAj6l40QvIaoPmZXbQ2mCnz8hcKlUj5Vs6TVesuT8iqZyOfx1 UpetDYwQwgqVHAfuDFCvNZfrOZ61HcYD7SnhtT6JXZbbRjo9u1As4wj9p6jqppcZ dgWTAWWvk/8zqrkeGKGGWzEmYPY2En91cU7cLPcrkC/mBcVHV2kV4BjyMMWyyHeW 7TMPfcLBtxHszxIH1bXG5tOuH0FrEsHe0hiDk7GPB33IsyFgp0+jWD0HMiEiAJ0r n0OL3qVOtZDhPndC+66CgdD8GIYlb6X6YoUW5Q/Vy8w+ybO1UhWfyPd17v8KSQie geOY6+oL9vOIvierzYwHi0GX9NSb9U2IGowSGMoVzzIBCWMHm/oaBHYsp2PT0x6k /AJhFQVsTLb+fehO7/znZ+Uh/4fEMUvrbY/vIpe5NRQNVgX9bY/8pXtQHWXuNN8s FVvnQPbmbtyTEhCuZEM50nKDVmTtEvJLMUTr7o0pGT8kZwhQI+r7BiaoSkhdMxrL 5zIYorNE5xMVFWCynk5uHt6C3wM1fCZ7rLnLKsKK7hagr8T6c3vyl8/4N6IUKfF1 fDeo1lKkMDFQT6Fpe8iMJPj/RP6ECrYiWymB0LS5/0v2y/8GrOg= =Hzjm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--