From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make mode-line number display consistent when both line and col numbers are shown. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218879 Archived-At: I do not like this proposal. >>>>> Robert Weiner writes: > When mode-line line numbers are on by themselves, L > appears. When mode-line column numbers are on by themselves, > C appears. When both are on, (,) > appears. > The latter is inconsistent and always forces the user to remember > which is the line and which is the column number. There are many things about emacs to remember. Surely, a single depression of an arrow key is sufficient to remind the forgetful. > simple, simply remove the parentheses which are no longer needed > and add the prefix character to each number for: > L,C. This makes the display perfectly > consistent, easier to read and does not take up any more character > space. With respect, that is a matter of opinion. I find the parenthesis useful delimiters on the mode-line. Besides, they are present for features other than line-column numbers. -- Colin Baxter m43cap@yandex.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- GnuPG fingerprint: 68A8 799C 0230 16E7 BF68 2A27 BBFA 2492 91F5 41C8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- "There is no more common error than to assume that, because prolonged and accurate mathematical calculations have been made, the application of the result to some fact of nature is absolutely certain." A. N. Whitehead