Re: Time to consider/try Helm?

[YUE Daian <sheepduke@gmail.com>]

On 2018-10-31 11:59, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:
> On 2018-10-31, at 05:14, YUE Daian <sheepduke@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-10-30 23:19, Rémi Letot <hobbes@poukram.net> wrote:
>>> YUE Daian <sheepduke@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi Boris,
>>>>
>>>> For me it was from vanilla to ido to helm. Never looked back.
>>>>
>>>> There are many debates of choosing helm or ivy. Their user experience
>>>> might be quite different. But both of them are far better than ido
>>>> IMHO.
>>>
>>> Could you please elaborate a bit on that ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -- 
>>> Rémi
>>
>> Hi Remi,
>>
>> Sorry for not being able to type the accent ;-)
>>
>> I am not really familiar with ivy so please let me talk about helm.
>>
>> Let's take buffer management as an example.
>>
>> With ido you have `ido-switch-buffer`, `ido-kill-buffer` etc for
>> different purposes.
>>
>> But with helm, when you use `helm-buffer-list`, it pops up a buffer,
>> which displays all opened and recently used buffers.
>>
>> You can type anything in the mini-buffer to perform fuzzy-search and the
>> buffer list will be filtered.
>>
>> You can mark items in the list and perform actions on them, for example
>> kill buffer, query replace, grep etc etc.
>> These actions are customizable thus can be added more.
>>
>> Also packages like helm can be used as a front-end for many other tools,
>> such as ag (great enhancement of grep, highly recommended), projectile
>> etc etc.
>
> Ivy can do these things, too.

Sure. And dramatically after I tried Ivy since yesterday, I have already
uninstalled helm...

Thank you guys, for helping me find a new tool that suits my taste more.

>> I think the biggest change helm brings is that it uses buffer instead of
>> mini-buffer to display its results.
>
> How is that beneficial?  (I don't claim it isn't - I just don't know
> what are the pluses.)

Here "change" is a neutral word.

Some people like it, some people don't.

Some people say that using an individual buffer may display more
information, such as file size, directory etc for buffer list.

IMHO most information is not really needed (by me).

So personally I could accept it, but I don't miss it after switching to
Ivy.


Danny