From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 21:23:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87ftpcopfu.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> <3210C8E9-7A74-47D6-81A0-470948E6D09C@gmail.com> <87r28xq0j1.fsf@telefonica.net> <5495188F-7A7D-4E50-82C4-E2CBABD8633D@gmail.com> <20190517060858.xoddgzyudvo4p2oo@Ergus> <20190517092120.GE9018@tuxteam.de> <87imu9p4c1.fsf@telefonica.net> <15cc0f33-24e1-7524-80da-a0a27c6eb162@yandex.ru> <871s0xp22i.fsf@telefonica.net> <836cfe77-a5ac-7af0-3baf-6f52fcb89a44@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="96173"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 17 21:39:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRihB-000OpW-2w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 21:39:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52938 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRih9-0000Uj-Uf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 15:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRigS-0008TY-QQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 15:38:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRiSD-0004ro-Qv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 15:23:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=58294 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hRiSD-0004qt-KQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 15:23:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRiSB-0005jo-2X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 21:23:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:O//om9Kg7q4rpA56nYwEAkct0Ek= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120509 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 17.05.2019 17:50, Óscar Fuentes wrote: > >>> On 17.05.2019 17:01, Óscar Fuentes wrote: >>>> Then, when >>>> you need to do a search&replace that goes beyond the dumb thing that the >>>> dialog offers, well, bad luck. >>> >>> What do you do to search&replace in all files across the project? >> >> What I do is invoke a searcher such as "ag" or vc-git-grep and then >> wgrep to operate on the resulting buffer. This has the advantage that I >> can simply do a replace-string or a more detailed manual edition on a >> case-by-case basis with the associated file on a side window for >> context, etc. > > A lot of the time, you don't need detailed editing for matches, though. > > And the "dumb thing" the popular editors offer serves this case (as > well as many others) actually very well and better than Emacs. So > there's no reason to feel all smug and content, in my opinion. If those other editors do the simple thing better than Emacs and you decided that *I* don't need the not-so-simple thing a lot of the time... well, it is difficult to keep arguing, isn't it?