From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20164: 25.0.50; Do not tell users that `x-show-tip' is internal Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:28:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87ftmjrbsy.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <7d0f8249-d653-40f9-8534-9ffe29d689a2@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="112221"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 20164@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 02 14:33:49 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htWkm-000T45-Vy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:33:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34500 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htWkl-0002ZJ-Tw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:33:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htWgB-0003jk-Ao for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htWgA-00031d-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htWgA-00031T-4V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htWg9-0004cy-Uu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20164 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 20164-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20164.156474893217772 (code B ref 20164); Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20164) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2019 12:28:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55991 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htWg0-0004cY-9i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:58008) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htWfy-0004cO-JY for 20164@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 08:28:50 -0400 Original-Received: from 77.18.62.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.18.62.220] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htWfu-0001vT-DH; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:28:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <7d0f8249-d653-40f9-8534-9ffe29d689a2@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 22 Mar 2015 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164335 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > The doc string says this: > > This is an internal function; Lisp code should call `tooltip-show'. > > Why? While it is true that you can get, using `tooltip-show', the > behavior of arg PARMS by binding `tooltip-frame-parameters', the behavior > of args DX and DY by binding `tooltip-x-offset' and `tooltip-y-offset', > and the behavior of arg TIMEOUT by binding `tooltip-hide-delay' (which is > not documented, BTW), you cannot the behavior of arg FRAME. And binding > user options is not really a great way to control the function behavior, > in general. I agree that the calling conventions for `x-show-tip' seems to be much nicer than `tooltip-show'. > So `tooltip-show' is not really a user-level substitute for "internal" > `x-tooltip-show'. > > What's more, the doc of `tooltip-show' explicitly refers to how variable > `x-max-tooltip-size' affects the behavior. Why refer to that "internal" > variable? And if it is not "internal" then why does it have the prefix > `x-'? Why isn't there a `tooltip-max-size' option, corresponding to the > other `tooltip-*' options? The commit that added the line about it being internal just says "doc fix", so I can only guess what the reason behind it was: Perhaps we're trying to get away from all `x-' functions and replace them with generic functions? But, as you say, then it's odd that we still have `x-max-tooltip-size'. So perhaps the way forward here is to make `x-max-tooltip-size' an obsolete alias for a new variable `tooltip-max-size'? And add a way to specify the FRAME parameter somehow... but the calling convention for that function is kinda meh. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no