From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38696: "If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up" Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 08:35:54 +0800 Message-ID: <87fthdurh1.5.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87eewyr1f4.8.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="74354"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38696@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 22 01:37:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iipFA-000JED-56 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 01:37:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43322 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iipF8-0007VX-Ft for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:37:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iipF2-0007VR-0n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:37:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iipEz-0004nF-Tn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:37:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iipEz-0004mP-NS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:37:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iipEz-0000Fn-LF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:37:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87eewyr1f4.8.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 00:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38696 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38696-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38696.1576974972878 (code B ref 38696); Sun, 22 Dec 2019 00:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38696) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2019 00:36:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iipE8-0000E1-WD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:36:12 -0500 Original-Received: from bongo.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.21]:42353) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iipE3-0000Dp-90 for 38696@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:36:07 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0B140DB3; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 00:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-83-39.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.83.39]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8B759140E94; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sun, 22 Dec 2019 00:36:02 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Bitter-Juvenile: 54a179c56638d6d6_1576974961973_3885775549 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1576974961973:207448782 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1576974961973 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD567F181; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 16:35:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=DFn2wFZp/B6wiMCcOKW5uvUWFog=; b=l1iRVAjkhOvgE q8EM00utsrZK7CPotq9i+yH7adoWNF3giGzDT/JWn57OjpEePGWQZj5Wp46WxsUu pElEDXp+5rBQXMISy5daMQsu2KdgMTTvQ29LeX75iFF5454fBJePnhY8yWcEOgJ0 CReDBQ250eFvLicUmAxijNxSljgSCA= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (1-170-80-182.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [1.170.80.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a52.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF13C7F0E4; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 16:35:58 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a52 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrvdduiedgvdduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppedurddujedtrdektddrudekvdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpedurddujedtrdektddrudekvddprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeefkeeileeiseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173625 Archived-At: >>>>> "RMS" == Richard Stallman writes: RMS> Would you please show us what this looks like? $ cat .emacs (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:family "DejaVu Sans Mono" :foundry "PfEd" :slant normal :weight normal :height 218 :width normal))))) There is no way offered to "decompile" this into something that all those Emacs manuals talk about when introducing how to edit your .emacs file. The user is no longer in full control, but must maintain it via an interface (the menus.)