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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: 39902@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#39902: 28.0.50; Marking in dired with active region
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:51:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fte52pbf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8736a7ajn5.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 17 Mar 2020 01:51:26 +0100")

> I see our different views as of the same right and value.  And the use
> case (who uses marking commands with an active region at all?) is a
> corner case.  I don't mind about the default as long as there is a new
> option.

There is nothing new here.  Mathematicians have been fighting that battle
for centuries until invention of the special notation to differentiate
including and excluding endpoints using either a square bracket or
a reversed parenthesis to indicate inclusive/exclusive intervals:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_(mathematics)#Intervals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_(mathematics)#Including_or_excluding_endpoints

The most recent development is still ongoing in new programming languages.
For example, in the initial versions of Rust there were only
exclusive ranges, so e.g.

  for i in 1..3

yields only 1 and 2, but not 3, like the region mark command in Dired now.

But later Rust versions added inclusive ranges as well with special syntax:

  for i in 1..=3

that yields 1, 2 and 3.

Please see more examples at
https://doc.rust-lang.org/edition-guide/rust-2018/data-types/inclusive-ranges.html

So Dired could do the same and support both range types using a new option
'dired-mark-inclusive'.

> I would rather want to discuss what else should be done
> (behavior of other marking commands etc, should we change
> `dired-mark-if', etc.

I think `dired-mark-if' should respect that option too.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-18 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 14:29 bug#39902: 28.0.50; Marking in dired with active region Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-04 15:41 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-04 16:04   ` Stephen Berman
2020-03-04 21:07     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-04 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-05  1:11   ` Drew Adams
2020-03-05 13:58   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-05 23:42     ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-06  2:30       ` Drew Adams
2020-03-07  0:07       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-08  0:38         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-08 14:00           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-08 17:04             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-08 23:56               ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-09  0:37                 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09 14:53                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 22:28                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-10  0:41                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 23:24                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-10 23:49                         ` Stephen Berman
2020-03-10 23:56                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-11  0:24                         ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 23:55                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11  0:08                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-11  0:18                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-11  0:29                           ` Drew Adams
2020-03-11  1:21                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-12  0:43                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-12  1:13                               ` Drew Adams
2020-03-13  0:39                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-13  8:31                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-13 22:30                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-14 18:03                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-03-14 17:56                                   ` Drew Adams
2020-03-14 23:45                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-15  2:46                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-15 20:52                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-03-15 20:50                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-03-15 23:41                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-16  1:46                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-03-17  0:51                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-18 23:51                                               ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2020-03-19 23:54                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-22  2:48                                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-22 23:33                                                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-23  0:43                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-23 15:09                                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-03-24 21:58                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-24 22:14                                                             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-23  0:35                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-23 15:20                                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-03-24 21:58                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-24 22:13                                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-03-16 15:21                             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09 14:52                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 14:50               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 15:22                 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 16:04                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 16:33                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09  9:04         ` martin rudalics
2020-03-09 15:02           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 15:39             ` Drew Adams
2020-03-10 16:08               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-09 17:12             ` martin rudalics
2020-03-10 15:52               ` Michael Heerdegen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-08  8:26 Making Emacs popular again with a video Nathan Colinet
2020-05-10 20:57 ` Nathan Colinet
2020-05-12  3:12   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12 12:57     ` GNU Emacs raison d'etre excalamus--- via Emacs development discussions.
2020-05-13 16:18       ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-13 19:39         ` Andreas Röhler
2020-05-13 20:05           ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-13 20:52             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-13 22:04               ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-13 22:55                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-14  4:56                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-17  1:28                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-17  1:59                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-18  3:43                         ` transient Richard Stallman
2020-05-18  6:58                           ` transient Joost Kremers
2020-05-18 18:41                             ` transient Howard Melman
2020-05-19  5:38                               ` transient Drew Adams
2020-05-19 14:00                                 ` transient Arthur Miller
2020-05-20  3:14                                   ` transient Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                                     ` <87tuztngxr.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
2020-06-03  4:32                                       ` bug#39902: transient Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-03 22:49                                         ` bug#39902: 28.0.50; Marking in dired with active region Juri Linkov
2020-06-04 12:31                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-04 22:18                                             ` Juri Linkov

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