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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248294 Archived-At: On Fri, May 01 2020, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider > ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, > ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's > example. ]]] > > Lots of packages require building and that uses tools. > Emacs, for instance, needs various tools to build it, > including a C compiler. Nothing wrong or unusual there. > > What alarms me about pdf-tools is that it tries to install those > tools > itself rather than leaving the user in control of that step. Mind you, pdf-tools does ask the user for permission first and it pops up a buffer where you can follow what is happening. Honestly, as a user of pdf-tools, I'm glad this happen automatically if I choose to. Saves me from opening a shell and copy&pasting a bunch of commands. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments