From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: make a drawing with Emacs Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:34:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87ft7zs48u.fsf@logand.com> References: <20200901145854.GF15433@tuxteam.de> <87sgbzsx4q.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28878"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 03 09:34:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kDjli-0007PK-JN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:34:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDjlh-0006H6-MR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 03:34:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDjlQ-0006Gn-R7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 03:34:32 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:35386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDjlP-0002ZH-67 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 03:34:32 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A136F1A4B08; Thu, 3 Sep 2020 09:34:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/03 03:34:29 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123923 Archived-At: On Wed 02 Sep 2020 at 18:28, Stefan Monnier wrote: > That's pretty much what the svg.el package mentioned earlier in the > thread does. Instead of `svg-image`, use `svg-print`. Thanks for the info. I see two problems with the svg.el package. 1) It is not clear upfront, when it does not work, as demonstrated with svg-image vs svg-print. This is general problem with foreign dependencies. 2) Elisp does not have keyword arguments. However, svg.el works around that with rest arg plist. This brings the worst of both worlds: complexity and useless tools. For example, I use eldoc. Eldoc hint for svg-circle is useless: svg-circle: (SVG X Y RADIUS &rest ARGS) I have to dig into the source code to find out what ARGS is. Every time I use svg-circle. Writing own alternative to svg.el offers a chance to fix those problems.