From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: caching message headers? Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:59:48 -0700 Message-ID: <87ft7ngbrv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87imclnqsz.fsf@Kittu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33910"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: wgreenhouse@tilde.club, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ozhap Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 01:00:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGs1u-0008hQ-Iu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 01:00:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59932 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGs1t-0007Z2-18 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 19:00:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55246) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGs1U-0007YY-5B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 19:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:40738 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGs1R-00022N-Ix for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 19:00:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 32FBEFA028; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:59:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1599865193; bh=oGOepMg4Xng6Oo/w6bNJHtyFJsit/PMi1LzXOxctwuE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=RrR4BUvyT381IFWp+8N3NUUegdUZReXjEfCXyAjyZBIXX9VhOSbdGY/Hm2VFlq0k2 eoyulKBMXtyqZL1OdtYZFaZY01t4xUjABwlZPqNSrrFON676jXvzTRHdxOrMducuCx IlszXXELSplQUFrT++G1nZzeGFX4E0kyUp8hm4rM= In-Reply-To: <87imclnqsz.fsf@Kittu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (Ozhap's message of "Fri, 11 Sep 2020 05:11:00 +0530") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=52.70.2.18; envelope-from=eric@ericabrahamsen.net; helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/11 18:59:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124024 Archived-At: Ozhap writes: >>> =E2=80=9CIf I read an article while plugged, do they get entered into t= he=20 >>> Agent?=E2=80=9D >>> >>> *No*. If you want this behavior, add=20 >>> =E2=80=98gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98gnus-se= lect-article-hook=E2=80=99. > >> That Info page could be more explicit that `gnus-agent-cache' means that >> articles *will* be added to the agent as they are read. > > That's how it stands now, but in info '(gnus)Agent as Cache' it says: > > "..Gnus normally only downloads *headers* once, and stores them in the > Agent" > > "Articles are *not* cached in the Agent by default though (that would > potentially consume lots of disk space), but if you have *already > downloaded an article into the Agent*, Gnus will not download the > article from the server again but use the locally stored copy instead." > > I did some digging, and this behaviour was changed due to bug#8502 where > Lars concludes (erroneously, on the face of it): > >> Let's see... caching... so if you're online (in an agentised group) >> and select an article, you want the article to be saved in the Agent >> directory? That sounds eminently reasonable, and I thought that was >> supposed to happen, but I can't find any code for doing that... hm... >> Nope. > > Ref: > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D8502 If I were you I would do this up as a proper bug report. Lars is now an Emacs maintainer, so he'll be obliged to look at it :) One way or another there is a mismatch between documentation, customization options, and actual observed behavior. I think if you can make it clear what that mismatch is, we stand a good chance of getting it fixed.