gopher from Emacs

gopher from Emacs

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Got this URL... or whatever it is... from a pal:

  gopher://hlirc.net/9/paste/op3sTuY87.txt

Is there support to access it from and with Emacs?
A major mode?

I could get it with gopher(1) ("The Internet Gopher")
on Debian so I guess it should work in theory.

I'm not into gopher enough tho, but if someone
already did it, I mean.

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Jamie Beardslee]

Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

> Got this URL... or whatever it is... from a pal:
>
>   gopher://hlirc.net/9/paste/op3sTuY87.txt
>
> Is there support to access it from and with Emacs?
> A major mode?
>

There are two gopher clients for emacs, neither of which are builtin.

http://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher

https://github.com/ardekantur/gopher.el

Re: gopher from Emacs

[Skip Montanaro]

> There are two gopher clients for emacs, neither of which are builtin.
>
> http://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher
>
> https://github.com/ardekantur/gopher.el

Wow... I didn't know gopher was still a thing.

Skip

Re: gopher from Emacs

[황병희]

Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> writes:

>> There are two gopher clients for emacs, neither of which are builtin.
>>
>> http://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher
>>
>> https://github.com/ardekantur/gopher.el
>
> Wow... I didn't know gopher was still a thing.

Me too! (so amazing...)

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Byung-Hee wrote:

>>> There are two gopher clients for emacs, neither
>>> of which are builtin.
>>>
>>> http://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher
>>>
>>> https://github.com/ardekantur/gopher.el
>>
>> Wow... I didn't know gopher was still a thing.
>
> Me too! (so amazing...)

if anything can start anew ...
then everything must continue

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Jude DaShiell]

It's still a thing, and it forgot to get inaccessible too.  Use a screen
reader with gopher you'll have much better luck than with html in many
cases.

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Skip Montanaro wrote:

> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 21:08:16
> From: Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com>
> To: Jamie Beardslee <jdb@jamzattack.xyz>
> Cc: Help GNU Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: gopher from Emacs
>
> > There are two gopher clients for emacs, neither of which are builtin.
> >
> > http://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher
> >
> > https://github.com/ardekantur/gopher.el
>
> Wow... I didn't know gopher was still a thing.
>
> Skip
>
>

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Jamie Beardslee wrote:

>> Got this URL... or whatever it is... from a pal:
>>
>>   gopher://hlirc.net/9/paste/op3sTuY87.txt
>>
>> Is there support to access it from and with Emacs?
>> A major mode?
>
> There are two gopher clients for emacs, neither of
> which are builtin.
>
>   http://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher
>
>   https://github.com/ardekantur/gopher.el

Thanks!

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Jamie Beardslee wrote:

> https://github.com/ardekantur/gopher.el

Direct link to the Elisp:

  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/msnyder-info/gopher.el/master/gopher.el

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Jamie Beardslee]

|  (define-key gopher-mode-map "n" (lambda () (interactive) (forward-line)))
|  (define-key gopher-mode-map "p" (lambda () (interactive) (forward-line -1)))

Hmm, I wonder what this person was thinking?

Re: gopher from Emacs

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Jamie Beardslee wrote:

> |  (define-key gopher-mode-map "n" (lambda ()
> | (interactive) (forward-line)))
> |  (define-key gopher-mode-map "p" (lambda ()
> | (interactive) (forward-line -1)))
>
> Hmm, I wonder what this person was thinking?

(describe-function #'previous-line)

  This function is for interactive use only; in Lisp
  code use `forward-line' with negative
  argument instead.

Well, that's ambiguous, isn't it? This is Lisp _and_
it is interactive!

But he found a way to solve the Gordian knot :)

BTW, I got it to work. But it seems the Linux VT with
my font don't have the bandwidth:

  https://dataswamp.org/~incal/pimgs/comp/gopher.png

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Iñigo Serna]

Hi,

On 18 September 2020 at 00:01 +02, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> wrote:

>   gopher://hlirc.net/9/paste/op3sTuY87.txt
>
> Is there support to access it from and with Emacs?
> A major mode?

There is elpher [1], a gemini [2] and gopher client.

Best regards,
Iñigo


[1] https://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher/

[2] A new protocol, similar to gopher but more advanced.
    Excuse the silly metaphor, but something like gopher+ or,
    as the authors described, “something between gopher and web”.
    https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

Re: gopher from Emacs

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Iñigo Serna wrote:

>> Is there support to access it from and with Emacs?
>> A major mode?
>
> There is elpher [...]

I see that elpher (clever name) is available on MELPA
_but_ the version that shows up is 20200919.1025,
with

   Status: Incompatible because it depends on Emacs 26.2.

and true enough, I'm on

  GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) of
  2019-09-23, modified by Debian

and on the homepage [1] they refer to a gopher link [2]
for the source, so catch 22.

BTW, why is the package manager showing me packages
that are incompatible?

BTW 2, that line would look better like this

   status: incompatible, depends on Emacs 26.2


[1] https://thelambdalab.xyz/elpher/

[2] gopher://thelambdalab.xyz/1/projects/elpher/

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Re: gopher from Emacs

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Iñigo Serna wrote:

> A new protocol, similar to gopher but more
> advanced. Excuse the silly metaphor, but something
> like gopher+ or, as the authors described,
> "something between gopher and web".

gemini, as in the astrological sign?

I don't get the "silly metaphor".

Because it is similar to gopher yet not the same?

Well, the word is different. Yet denoting similarity.

Wow, that's not silly! That's brilliant!

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