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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: empty-directory predicate, native implementation
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:06:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ft6boi0p.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB4526B04DF72FECF07151844196000@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (Arthur Miller's message of "Sat, 17 Oct 2020 23:58:29 +0200")

Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:

Hi,

>> But my argument wasn't about implementation or
>> efficiency.  Even if, for some reason, C had to "get"
>> (info about) all of the files in the directory, just
>> to determine whether the dir is empty, my argument
>> would be the same wrt Lisp: have a separate predicate,
>> or have a Boolean new parameter, instead of having a
>> COUNT new parameter.
>
> I am not sure I follow; but it is a building block to build that
> predicate. I agree with you that it is much nice to have such predicate
> built-in than if anyone is building their own if it is just one liner.
>
> I have no problems to build that predicate on directory_files_internal
> either, it is trivial; and it would remove need to change the function
> signature and count confusion, but than instead of changing one
> parameter in a signature it would be a new predicate in Lisp
> implementation. Wold be nice exercise to me to learn how to write
> a tramp handler :-), but I am not sure it is desired.
>
> Don't know, what Michael and Eli have to say about?

I'm in line with Eli here. I have no glaring example that we need COUNT
greater than one. Just a vague idea, that it could help to implement a
more performant file name completion, especially in the remote
case. That is, if you have a very large directory, you let complete file
names on-the-fly (while typing in the minibuffer) with just the first 50
hits from directory-files, which could be retrieved much faster than,
say, more than 2000 file names (this is what I have in /usr/bin). The
complete file names for completion are retrieved, when the user hits TAB.

Just a vague idea; I haven't checked how to implement.

So I propose we still use the COUNT optional argument. This isn't worse
than an argument NOT-EMPTY, which would let directory-files return
immediately after the first hit has found.

Best regards, Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-18 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-13  2:22 empty-directory predicate, native implementation Arthur Miller
2020-10-13  8:01 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 11:42   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 13:16     ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 18:32       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 18:39         ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 23:20           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14  9:19             ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 13:53               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 18:43   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 19:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 19:59       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 14:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 14:43           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-13 18:44   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-13 19:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 20:08       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14  1:52       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14  9:21         ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 13:56           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 14:41             ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 15:07               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 15:53                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 16:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 16:21                     ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-14 16:29                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15  5:53                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15  9:12                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-15 11:33                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 12:21                               ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-15 13:29                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 14:01                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 14:41                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-15 15:22                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16 23:31                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17  8:13                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-17 19:03                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 20:03                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-10-17 20:27                                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 21:18                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-17 22:06                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 21:02                                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 21:27                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-17 21:58                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-18 12:06                                               ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2020-10-18  2:47                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-18 11:52                                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-18 16:15                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-10-18 16:43                                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-18 20:15                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-18 21:25                                             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-19  0:03                                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-18 22:21                                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  8:04                                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19 14:01                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19 14:50                                               ` Michael Albinus
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2020-11-02 17:02                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-11-03 15:20                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 13:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-16 23:33                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 14:49             ` Arthur Miller
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2020-10-18  4:05                                           ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-10-18 21:13 Drew Adams
2020-10-18 22:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-19  7:54   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19  0:24 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  0:37   ` Drew Adams
2020-10-19  2:15     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  7:51 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19 15:25   ` Drew Adams

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