From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:15:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87ft4ncnl7.fsf@logand.com> References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> <86pn46awrr.fsf@akirakyle.com> <87y2ise7j5.fsf@gnus.org> <86tutfwhr6.fsf@akirakyle.com> <87h7pfb76z.fsf@gnus.org> <86h7peqkt5.fsf@akirakyle.com> <83tutdsc8i.fsf@gnu.org> <86eeker01y.fsf@akirakyle.com> <83wny5naf5.fsf@gnu.org> <86o8jh9cij.fsf@akirakyle.com> <83czzwkmwk.fsf@gnu.org> <86lfeja49y.fsf@akirakyle.com> <87czzu7y5r.fsf@logand.com> <86zh2vvi55.fsf@akirakyle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32746"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Akira Kyle Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 03 09:17:29 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kkjns-0008OZ-T4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:17:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39558 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkjnr-0004Wb-Vb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:17:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38240) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkjls-0003WR-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:15:27 -0500 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:58162) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkjlq-0003x7-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:15:24 -0500 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3B68219F129; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 09:15:19 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: <86zh2vvi55.fsf@akirakyle.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260203 Archived-At: On Wed 02 Dec 2020 at 17:37, Akira Kyle wrote: > Do you wish to never launch display server such as X or wayland but > still have some of Emacs graphics support on the linux framebuffer? yes > It seems like unless you're going to teach Emacs to entirely draw > itself to the framebuffer, there will always be glitches like the > cursor messing up images since TUI Emacs won't be aware of what pixels > of the framebuffer have been drawn over independently of the linux VT > displaying lines of Emacs' characters. The cursor could be turned off. Are there other glitches which cannot be solved? Try $ w3m https://gnu.org You'll see graphics in text only web browser. It works even with cursor on.